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**osmium** · 07-30-2009, 12:14 AM

I like how all the Forrest groupies are claiming he is some super powerful monster that no one can overpower. They are basically the same size folks and Anderson made Rich Franklin look like a 5 year old in the clinch are you really claiming that Forrest is like 10 times stronger than Rich? If anything Anderson is stronger than Forrest he is near the same size when the fights at 205 and is all solid muscle unlike Forrest. What evidence do you even have that he would have a strength advantage he hasn't dominated anyone in an impressive fashion grappling at 205. I don't think getting his face destroyed by Jardine and Rashad qualifies him as having a great chin also Silva is a hell of a lot better striker than both of them.

**Alex_DeLarge** · 07-30-2009, 12:14 AM

Forrest's ground game has gotten supremely overrated within the last month.

**The505Butcher** · 07-30-2009, 01:56 AM

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Forrest's ground game has gotten supremely overrated within the last month.

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I like how all the Forrest groupies are claiming he is some super powerful monster that no one can overpower. They are basically the same size folks and Anderson made Rich Franklin look like a 5 year old in the clinch are you really claiming that Forrest is like 10 times stronger than Rich? If anything Anderson is stronger than Forrest he is near the same size when the fights at 205 and is all solid muscle unlike Forrest. What evidence do you even have that he would have a strength advantage he hasn't dominated anyone in an impressive fashion grappling at 205. I don't think getting his face destroyed by Jardine and Rashad qualifies him as having a great chin also Silva is a hell of a lot better striker than both of them.

Dude forrest is solid muscle? he walks around at like 245 and when he cuts the weight he is extremely strong. Anderson is a good striker but so was Rampage and Shogun. Silva has to work up to 205 and was not solid muscle last time he was at 205. rashad is a very good striker and so is jardine. and if you dont think he has a chin watch any of his fights with bonnar or the one with rampage. he can take a serious punch. though if he is smart, i agree he will look to take it to the ground.

**osmium** · 07-30-2009, 03:25 AM

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Dude forrest is solid muscle? he walks around at like 245 and when he cuts the weight he is extremely strong. Anderson is a good striker but so was Rampage and Shogun. Silva has to work up to 205 and was not solid muscle last time he was at 205. rashad is a very good striker and so is jardine. and if you dont think he has a chin watch any of his fights with bonnar or the one with rampage. he can take a serious punch. though if he is smart, i agree he will look to take it to the ground.

Proof of tuffer delusion syndrome just a sequence of statements based completely in fantasy. Anderson has better BJJ than Forrest by the way and he will sub Forrest if he tries to keep the fight on the ground. Just because Joe Rogan says something doesn't make it true choking out a Shogun who is so gassed he can't even defend himself isn't proof of great BJJ.

**The505Butcher** · 07-30-2009, 04:44 AM

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Proof of tuffer delusion syndrome just a sequence of statements based completely in fantasy. Anderson has better BJJ than Forrest by the way and he will sub Forrest if he tries to keep the fight on the ground. Just because Joe Rogan says something doesn't make it true choking out a Shogun who is so gassed he can't even defend himself isn't proof of great BJJ.

have you looked at forrest's record? he has more wins by submision than anything else? he is a very big 205 pound guy and its hard to deal with people that big. look how long it took silva to submit lutter after he had the dang choke locked. Anderson also has lost more to submission than anything else. he tapped faster than it took to place the heel hook on him by chonan. Anderson has submitted 2 people and he all of a sudden is some god at BJJ? And Joe Rogan usually knows what he is talking about. though he says unbelievable too much.

georgie17891 · 07-30-2009, 08:15 AM

I dont like forrest griffin but I think he CAN win the fight not saying he will but he CAN

**osmium** · 07-30-2009, 01:26 PM

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have you looked at forrest's record? he has more wins by submision than anything else? he is a very big 205 pound guy and its hard to deal with people that big. look how long it took silva to submit lutter after he had the dang choke locked. Anderson also has lost more to submission than anything else. he tapped faster than it took to place the heel hook on him by chonan. Anderson has submitted 2 people and he all of a sudden is some god at BJJ? And Joe Rogan usually knows what he is talking about. though he says unbelievable too much.

Anderson's foot was broken going into the Chonan fight and that is the only reason he got subbed. The only other time he got submitted was 6 years ago. Pretty much every submission Forrest has is against a can he is 2-4 against good competition.\

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I dont like forrest griffin but I think he CAN win the fight not saying he will but he CAN

That doesn't really mean anything my grandmother could beat Anderson Silva in a fight if he instantly Cote'd himself everyone has a chance.

Nick_V03 · 07-30-2009, 03:15 PM

I don't think Anderson will submit Forrest. You can say Forrest has an overrated ground game, I won't argue with that. Although, he has never been submitted in his MMA career and I think Anderson has an overrated ground game himself. Forrest dominated Shogun on the ground. Sure, you can say Shogun was gassed, I'm not interested in excuses. He never had anything for Forrest on the ground. He also dominated Rampage on the ground. Mounted him for a whole round, a guy that is stronger than both Forrest and Anderson. I know Anderson has way better BJJ than Rampage, I'm not arguing with that. I'm just saying Rampage is a lot stronger than Anderson and Forrest had no problem with his strength on the ground. Off his back, he had a triangle which Rampage slammed his way out of. He is famous for that so you can't fault Forrest there. He fought a smarter fight than Arona at least and didn't let Rampage almost power bomb him through the octagon. He also completely neutralized his ground and pound. I think Forrest can more than hold his own against Silva who doesn't have this world class ground game himself. I'm not saying Forrest will triangle Anderson, I'm just showing examples of how Forrest has displayed his good ground game in the past.

I'm not saying Forrest will win on the ground either, although I am saying he can hold his own there and that would be the best game plan for him to try and turn it into a grappling match. That's his best chance because it is possible that he could win there. I think he has a better chance on the ground than he does standing, I'm sure you can agree with that.

**The505Butcher** · 07-30-2009, 03:35 PM

yeah i agree with that. i dont think anyone can train for the accuracy of anderson's strikes. and i hope that none of forrest's leg kicks get caught and countered like irvin's. i just think that people are giving this to silva because everyone thinks he is a god. and i want someone to prove he is not i guess.

i like how osmium thinks that everyone forrest has fought so far is terrible. i guess he thinks he can beat everyone of the 16 people forrest has beaten. In the ufc he is 7 and 3. so that means he won more than half of his fights against top people. and he was a champion in his last fight. Chapions do not bacome so fighting weak opponents. i am saying forrest wins this fight. as long as he is smart and takes it to the ground.