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Old 08-10-2009, 10:44 PM   #11 (permalink)
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First Dana would not do this fight because he dont wanna lose the number 1 P4P guy to injurys he would get in the fight. Second it wouldnt be a fight once Brock got him and I dont think Silva would do it. So I would like to see Brock fight Fedor, have him go watch a Strikeforce fight and call Fedor out, Fedor want answer. Let Silva fight Machida I would love to see this one.
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Old 08-10-2009, 10:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
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He is really really good as a wrestler gnp artist giant shaved gorilla smash machine. His standing striking is terrible the premise is Silva could avoid and counter strike jump in and out hitting him avoiding the takedown long enough to KO him. I think it is possible but I also think Machida would have a better shot with his striking style than Silva. Either way I think I would put the odds pretty low for this maybe 25% just because he probably only needs to get the takedown once. I am convinced this is the best skillset to beat lesnar though I don't believe in the theory that someone needs to be as big as him because he is going to have such a huge speed advantage over that person that it won't matter. Being a lot faster and a lot better at striking is the way to beat Lesnar at this point in his career.
The Anderson hype machine is wayyyy out of control now.

Anderson is too small to fight Brock, period. Brock would get him down, and he would absolutely annihilate Anderson there. If Mir couldn't stand back up, Anderson sure in the hell isn't, and he's going to get punished bad, as Brock is huge.

Silva has the advantage striking, but do you think Brock is going to strike with him? Brock would take Anderson down asap, and since he's so big and quite fast for his size, he wouldn't have much trouble.

Basically, Anderson's only chance at beating Brock is if he can tag Brock in the first 30 seconds, as it'll only take that long for someone of Brock's size to grab Silva and toss him around like a little kid.
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Old 08-10-2009, 10:50 PM   #13 (permalink)
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The Anderson hype machine is wayyyy out of control now.

Anderson is too small to fight Brock, period. Brock would get him down, and he would absolutely annihilate Anderson there. If Mir couldn't stand back up, Anderson sure in the hell isn't, and he's going to get punished bad, as Brock is huge.

Silva has the advantage striking, but do you think Brock is going to strike with him? Brock would take Anderson down asap, and since he's so big and quite fast for his size, he wouldn't have much trouble.

Basically, Anderson's only chance at beating Brock is if he can tag Brock in the first 30 seconds, as it'll only take that long for someone of Brock's size to grab Silva and toss him around like a little kid.
Good job not reading my post, quoting it, typing up what you wanted to say when you entered this thread, and acting as though you were forming a response. You fail at constructive thought.
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Old 08-10-2009, 10:51 PM   #14 (permalink)
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The Anderson hype machine is wayyyy out of control now.

Anderson is too small to fight Brock, period. Brock would get him down, and he would absolutely annihilate Anderson there. If Mir couldn't stand back up, Anderson sure in the hell isn't, and he's going to get punished bad, as Brock is huge.

Silva has the advantage striking, but do you think Brock is going to strike with him? Brock would take Anderson down asap, and since he's so big and quite fast for his size, he wouldn't have much trouble.

Basically, Anderson's only chance at beating Brock is if he can tag Brock in the first 30 seconds, as it'll only take that long for someone of Brock's size to grab Silva and toss him around like a little kid.

anderson would have a better chance against lesner, than forrest had against anderson...i don't think this fight is absurd...silva might be able to take more punishment than mir did, and he probable wouldn't give up wrist control to brock like mir did, plus he has brutal elbows from the bottom, and i don't think brock likes getting hit at all.... mir was hurting him in the stand up imo, and i think spider could be more accurate and devastating than mir was standing...anderson would also indroduce him to head kicks.

if it was so unfair for spider to fight forrest, and he so easily took him apart, i don't think it would be that much unfair to spider to fight lesner, and i think he'd have as much chance as any other heavywieght would....if spider took apart a lightwieght champ as he did, what in the **** makes you think he has no chance against lesner? i don't get that. have you ever seen anything like what silva did to a guy that was a champion in a higher what class ever in your life?, he makes the impossible possible, so i don't think you can throw out this discussion like its unreal....silva is pin point, and has some nice reach expecially with his kicks, and he has a huge untested target in lesners big watermelon head to hit...it would be a fun imo
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Old 08-10-2009, 10:55 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Good job not reading my post, quoting it, typing up what you wanted to say when you entered this thread, and acting as though you were forming a response. You fail at constructive thought.
I don't understand?

I said the Anderson hype machine is far out of control now. I quoted you as you gave him a 25% chance to beat Brock, and said that Brock only needs 1 takedown to finish it, which I agree with.

I pretty much agreeded with you, then asked you if you thought Brock would even stand with Anderson, as since he won't, 25% is still even too much of a chance.
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anderson would have a better chance against lesner, than forrest had against anderson...i don't think this fight is absurd...silva might be able to take more punishment than mir did, and he probable wouldn't give up wrist control to brock like mir did, plus he has brutal elbows from the bottom, and i don't think brock likes getting hit at all.... mir was hurting him in the stand up imo, and i think spider could be more accurate and devastating than mir was standing...anderson would also indroduce him to head kicks.

if it was so unfair for spider to fight forrest, and he so easily took him apart, i don't think it would be that much unfair to spider to fight lesner, and i think he'd have as much chance as any other heavywieght would....if spider took apart a lightwieght champ as he did, what in the **** makes you think he has no chance against lesner? i don't get that.
About 80 pounds and brute strength makes me think that.
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anderson would have a better chance against lesner, than forrest had against anderson...i don't think this fight is absurd...silva might be able to take more punishment than mir did, and he probable wouldn't give up wrist control to brock like mir did, plus he has brutal elbows from the bottom, and i don't think brock likes getting hit at all.... mir was hurting him in the stand up imo, and i think spider could be more accurate and devastating than mir was standing...anderson would also indroduce him to head kicks.

if it was so unfair for spider to fight forrest, and he so easily took him apart, i don't think it would be that much unfair to spider to fight lesner, and i think he'd have as much chance as any other heavywieght would....if spider took apart a lightwieght champ as he did, what in the **** makes you think he has no chance against lesner? i don't get that.
What fight did you watch with Mir and Brock when Mir was hurting him in stand-up fight. Becaue I remember Mir only getting double Knees to Brock and still didnt knock him out, oh and remember Brock pounding Mir so hard Mir face had knots all over. Brock hitting percent againts opponents is like 80 to 18 the highest in the UFC.
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What fight did you watch with Mir and Brock when Mir was hurting him in stand-up fight. Becaue I remember Mir only getting double Knees to Brock and still didnt knock him out, oh and remember Brock pounding Mir so hard Mir face had knots all over. Brock hitting percent againts opponents is like 80 to 18 the highest in the UFC.
if that fight stayed standing, mir would have ko'd him without a doubt...don't think i was rooting for mir either, i root for brock in every one of his fights, i love how he smashes people...this is the one fight, i would root against him, so don't think i'm a brock hater or anything...i'd just love to see david beat the golith, and i think anderson has as much chance as the next guy.
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I don't understand?

I said the Anderson hype machine is far out of control now. I quoted you as you gave him a 25% chance to beat Brock, and said that Brock only needs 1 takedown to finish it, which I agree with.

I pretty much agreeded with you, then asked you if you thought Brock would even stand with Anderson, as since he won't, 25% is still even too much of a chance.
The way you worded it it made it look like you were saying what I stated was absurd and then mostly agreeing with me. The premise doesn't involve Brock willingly striking with Silva but Silva avoiding the shots and countering his aggression. Like I said probably one takedown it is over depending how late into the round it is. Anderson has a really great guard he could probably body triangle him use double underhooks so he can't extend his arms to get power and take hammerfists for a little while. But I really think that Silva's striking defense style is more to counter other strikers and Machida operates more on the elusive to wrestlers level.

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if that fight stayed standing, mir would have ko'd him without a doubt...don't think i was rooting for mir either, i root for brock in every one of his fights, i love how he smashes people...this is the one fight, i would root against him, so don't think i'm a brock hater or anything...i'd just love to see david beat the golith, and i think anderson has as much chance as the next guy.
Yeah the knee before the final takedown rocked him badly his eyes were wide and his face went pale and he just laid ontop of Mir for a while after that recovering. Mir isn't some great kickboxer and he made Brock look terrible striking standing up.
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