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Old 08-11-2009, 01:52 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Anderson is one of a kind in his fight game, so far. But size does matter at some point, so I would imagine somehow or another, Brock would lay hands on Silva and pretty much control what happened after that. On the ground, Brock would just have to avoid being submitted long enough to pound out Silva.

But since Silva hasn't fought the best 205ers yet, let's wait and see how he does against the LHW champ and top contenders before asking him to fight the HW champ. He'd at least need some warm-ups in the HW class before a title shot.

but he doesn't have that long...only 3 fights left before he retires.

forrest was a former lightheavy champ, beat shogun and rampage...forrest was also out striking rashad evans for 3 rounds before he got ko'd....so if forrest was beat that quickly, and he's striking was better than the other 3 top contenders when they fought him, i don't give them much more of a chance against anderson...so either fight machida, or test yourself agaist the likes of mir, couture, and lesner.

I think Mir/Silva would be a very fun fight.
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Old 08-11-2009, 02:05 AM   #32 (permalink)
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but he doesn't have that long...only 3 fights left before he retires.

forrest was a former lightheavy champ, beat shogun and rampage...forrest was also out striking rashad evans for 3 rounds before he got ko'd....so if forrest was beat that quickly, and he's striking was better than the other 3 top contenders when they fought him, i don't give them much more of a chance against anderson...so either fight machida, or test yourself agaist the likes of mir, couture, and lesner.

I think Mir/Silva would be a very fun fight.
You have a good point, I wasn't dissing Forrest and I do consider him to be near the top of the heap. I think his weakness is consistency. He beat Shogun (one of my favorite fights) but Shogun wasn't himself in that fight. He got put down by Jardine. He beat Rampage, but some argue it could have gone the other way. And losing to Rashad isn't anyting to be ashamed of but I don't subscribe to the "he was winning until he lost" argument. He may have looked good, but he still got the loss in that fight. I like Forrest, but I think Machida and maybe a couple others are far more consistent than him at this point. Forrest is consistent at coming to fight, but not winning all of them in devastating fashion.

Mir / Silva would be interesting. Carwin, Velazquez, Couture (maybe not Randy anymore) or even gatekeeper Herring would be interesting to see how Anderson dealt with a large size discrepancy.
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I am a big time Mir fan but Silva would murder him he has shit wrestling and his striking wouldn't look any better than Nate's did against Silva. Fighting Randy is kind of like fighting Hendo with far less punching power, better boxing technique, and an inferior chin. He has no way to beat Silva other than hugging him so **** that. If he was going to fight at HW against current ufc fighters I want to see how he handles Cro Cop and Kongo standing that is way more intriguing than him fighting most of the top guys to me.
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Old 08-11-2009, 02:20 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Kongo has crazy power, i wonder if anderson would maybe take him down, and submit him, instead of risking it...that would be wierd seeing him attept a takedown, but that would be the only fight i think anderson would consider taking the fight to the ground.
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Yeah I never thought of Kongo or CroCop. Both good suggestions for HW steps toward a title fight.
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You know... i stopped reading this thread after like half way down the first page. Silva is good and all but he just does not have the muscle to finish off a guy like Brock... I think that skill anderson would beat brock with half his pinky but Lesnar would just sprint straight at him like a rhino and slam silva into the cage and subsequntly lose his head like he did in the mir fight and throw silva over the cage.

Now if we were to allow silva to take steroids and gain the muscle mass needed to actually move someone like Lesnar... Silva by KO in the second round. I mean i think Lesnar could basically lift Silva with one arm and silva would have to break a neck or arm in order for lesnar not to just power out of a submission.

Maybe if it was Mazzagati and he thought silva punched lesnar in the face once and that was the reason brock is on top of silva and not that lesnar just took him down.
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LOL at people thinking Silva could triangle Brock. Have you seen the dude's back? It's like a sheet of plywood.

Brock by TKO in the second round
I kinda wanna see Silva trying to triangle Brock. We would get to see another highlight reel KO by a slam Rampage style. :P
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I kinda wanna see Silva trying to triangle Brock. We would get to see another highlight reel KO by a slam Rampage style. :P
Silva would probably just let go when he lifted him up and backflip off of him kneeing him in the face instantly KOing Brock and start moonwalking as soon as his feet hit the ground. Dudes got some magical powers you can't deny that shit he permanently destroyed Cote's knee by looking at it.
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The near unanimity of opinion on how Brock would crush Silva is kind of surprising to me. I agree that Brock would win too, but I'm surprised hardly anyone thinks Silva even has a fair chance and this is a ridiculous fight to even contemplate.

Geez people, first of all, Silva gives up not 80, but 60 lbs to Brock if that. Silva walks around at 220 and Brock at 280. Maybe some of that 220 is fat but not much, because he looked way more cut at 205 than Brock at 265. So I'm guessing if Silva packed on some muscle and for this fight, he would be giving up 50 lbs of muscle to Brock.

Fedor has fought at least half a dozen fights with that much or more weight difference, and he's dominated them all.

Also Brock's manhandling of Mir and Couture doesn't mean he'd do the same to Silva, those guys are dinosaurs with their technique compared to Anderson.

I think Lesnar would eventually barrel Silva down just because you can't sprawl against 280 pounds of Rhino charge, and he can only dodge for so long (something I think Machida might have better success at). And his bottom game is certainly not better than Mir.

But at the same time, Silva has a VERY good chance of tooling Lesnar on the feet. Lesnar had a LOT of trouble taking down Couture and defending his takedowns, and Couture's SMALLER than Anderson. Just because Murr and Herring bad terrible TDD doesn't mean Anderson does, and it's still plausible for him to KO Lesnar quite easily while avoiding the takedown. People seem to think Lesnar's size somehow gives him a magical impenetrable chin that can only be broken by other giants. It doesn't work like that, chin doesn't necessarily increase proportionally with size, ask Zuluzinho, Arlovski etc. Anderson could very well tag Lesnar and destroy him. Because 220 lbs of weight thrown with amazing technique hits a lot harder than even 300 thrown with crap technique .. when you break it down to the physics of it, people seem to be overestimating how much difference the weight makes.
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