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post #1 of 54 (permalink) Old 08-17-2009, 12:00 AM Thread Starter
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Would a Ufc fighter beat a Grandmaster

This is a debate i was having with one of my friends, would a ufc fighter beat a dude who is a grandmaster in taekwondo who also has training in mma and other discipline but does not hit the gym or train at the high discipline of a pro fighter such as running 8 miles etc.
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This is a debate i was having with one of my friends, would a ufc fighter beat a dude who is a grandmaster in taekwondo who also has training in mma and other discipline but does not hit the gym or train at the high discipline of a pro fighter such as running 8 miles etc.
Considering the sheer number of years required to achieve such a rank, no. In most cases, the only way to achieve a rank of Grandmaster is to either be the head of your own martial art, or to move up the ranks gradually and eventually replace the last guy. Either way, you're looking at a guy in his 50's at the youngest. My Grandmaster is in his 80's. Throw him in against freakish athletes like Georges St Pierre or Brock Lesnar? I don't think so. Not only would the age alone be a large enough handicap, but as many fighters will tell you, conditioning is huge in this sport. At this level of competition, even a guy with all the knowledge of a Grandmaster in his 20's (impossible, but just for the sake of arguement) will lose to guys in better condition. Just ask BJ Penn.

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Considering the sheer number of years required to achieve such a rank, no. In most cases, the only way to achieve a rank of Grandmaster is to either be the head of your own martial art, or to move up the ranks gradually and eventually replace the last guy. Either way, you're looking at a guy in his 50's at the youngest. My Grandmaster is in his 80's. Throw him in against freakish athletes like Georges St Pierre or Brock Lesnar? I don't think so. Not only would the age alone be a large enough handicap, but as many fighters will tell you, conditioning is huge in this sport.
my grandmaster is 40 something but say if the grandmaster was in his athletic peek like 33-35 would he be able beat someone in the ufc.
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lol this thread is ridiculous.

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my grandmaster is 40 something but say if the grandmaster was in his athletic peek like 33-35 would he be able beat someone in the ufc.
Unless his name is Randy Couture, he would probably be past his athletic peak. Even so, against the level of competition in the UFC he will lose without proper conditioning.
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Not only is this thread ridiculous but the people responding to it are even more so. Watch UFC 1-10. Most of these "grand-masters" are one dimensional martial artists who train in one style. It wouldn't be possible to combat a UFC fighter if you didn't have knowledge of a ground system of fighting, you'd get taken down and would give up your back quickly. You'd have to not only be a "grand master" which is pretty retarded anyways, because rank has no relevance to combat expertise ... rather it's simply knowledge. But on to my point, the only way for one martial art to work, is if you're well-versed in others so that you could enforce the fight stay within the realms of that martial art's strengths, ala Lyoto Machida. However, one could argue that very principle is utilizing MMA and therefore that one style shouldn't be credited, which I agree with.
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If the grandmaster used yoda flame, I can't see how he would lose.



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Starting threads like this or posting serious responses in them should be a bannable offence. Seriously,
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I decided to humor him and give an actual response instead of asserting my e-dominance by insulting him off the forum. Sue me.

Edit: The point made about Grandmasters being one-dimensional is also what I was trying to get at. An abundance of knowledge in 1 style will begin to plateau in its usefulness against more well-rounded opponents. Matt Hughes vs Royce Gracie, for example.

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