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Old 08-20-2009, 09:55 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Am I the only one who sees Mirko Cro Cop vs Cain Velasquez appealing?
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:13 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Am I the only one who sees Mirko Cro Cop vs Cain Velasquez appealing?
but the cro cop is already fighting dos santos, and personally id rather see him face santos.

the heavyweight division is finally beginning to come around. carwin by no means deserves a title shot, but thats not to say carwin/lesnar wouldnt be very interesting. i thought they'd be holding off lesnars next fight for the december super card, but he can practically pull in 1 million buys on his own at this point.

where does this leave valesquez though? he should be fighting for a title shot, but now it looks like he'll be left in the limelight. like another poster said, they should put him against mir. with a win over mir he should undoubtedly be next in line.

meanwhile they should have the winners of cro cop/santos and couture/nogueira face off for the next title shot.
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:28 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Am I the only one who sees Mirko Cro Cop vs Cain Velasquez appealing?
I feel like Velasquez v s Cro Cop would be very similar to Velasquez vs. Kongo. Cro Cop would beat him standing but Cain Velasquez would consistently put him on his back and grind out another decision. Cro Cop is similar to Kongo in the sense that he has a good stand up game but is weak on the ground in comparison to Velasquez.

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Old 08-20-2009, 11:32 AM   #15 (permalink)
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As much as I would like to see Carwin fight Lesnar, I find the move to scrap the Velasquez/Carwin highly lacking in sporting integrity. That fight was set up as a contendership bracket, and its as if all of a sudden the UFC declared that Carwin was the winner. The reasons there are fights is to determine who is better and who deserves to move up in the rankings. I know this isn't the first time this sort of thing has happened, but the contendership fight was ALREADY set up. That being said, it is possible that Velasquez is injured, or could even be given a later shot at the title.
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as reported by several forums and web sites, the Velasquez-Carwin fight for UFC 104 has reportedly been scratched and shane carwin will get his shot at Lesnar at UFC 106 in November

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Good find...too bad you didnt have the source right away it would have been a slam dunk...!!!
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:40 AM   #17 (permalink)
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As much as I would like to see Carwin fight Lesnar, I find the move to scrap the Velasquez/Carwin highly lacking in sporting integrity. That fight was set up as a contendership bracket, and its as if all of a sudden the UFC declared that Carwin was the winner. The reasons there are fights is to determine who is better and who deserves to move up in the rankings. I know this isn't the first time this sort of thing has happened, but the contendership fight was ALREADY set up. That being said, it is possible that Velasquez is injured, or could even be given a later shot at the title.
I agree with this completely. I think Cain Velasquez got kinda screwed over in the whole deal. I do think that Carwin would have won and moved on to fight Lesnar, but that doesnt mean Cain should have lost his shot.

I have also heard a lot of people wanting to see Cain Velasquez and Frank Mir now. Which sucks because this would mean that the contender fight is scratched, carwin gets the champ, and velasquez gets stuck fighting the guy the champ just destroyed.
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I agree with this completely. I think Cain Velasquez got kinda screwed over in the whole deal. I do think that Carwin would have won and moved on to fight Lesnar, but that doesnt mean Cain should have lost his shot.

I have also heard a lot of people wanting to see Cain Velasquez and Frank Mir now. Which sucks because this would mean that the contender fight is scratched, carwin gets the champ, and velasquez gets stuck fighting the guy the champ just destroyed.

Look at it from the perspective that perhaps both Cain and Carwin well they def both bring somthing diff to the table, this maybe allows each of them a crack at lesner versus the winner of cain vs. carwin getting the shot.....
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Look at it from the perspective that perhaps both Cain and Carwin well they def both bring somthing diff to the table, this maybe allows each of them a crack at lesner versus the winner of cain vs. carwin getting the shot.....
That is an interesting perspective in the sense that it prevents one of the fighters from being knocked down the rankings and having to work their way back up.
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Personally i think that Carwin has a better chance against Lesnar than Cain does because he has someting Cain doesnt,two huge fists that need to be surrounded by XXXL gloves.

I dont think that Cain or Carwin would beat Lesnar in wrestling alone therefore i think the only way to beat Lesnar is by knocking him out and Carwin has the best chance of doing that
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