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Old 08-25-2009, 04:48 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I think you are overacting a bit, its nice to see soares and anderson try to take control out of ufc brass's hands..Its the least they can do..A fighter of his status should be getting more money than he is getting regardless of whether he is a draw or not.. 10 fight win streak (most of which bein highlight reels) speaks for it self..And he already beat hendo handily, if he doesnt feel hendo deserves a rematch just yet that is his prerogative..Going to a decision with palhares/franklin (a guy AS obliterated 2x mind u) and KOing bisbing arent really the sort Ws that going to sawy minds about the outcome of another encounter with silva..It sure hasnt changed mine..
agreed. yes, henderson has 3 wins in his last 3 fights, but like it was mentioned, he has two decision wins and a ko of bisping. one decision win was against franklin, who silva literally destroyed twice. and the ko of bisping was just that.....a ko of bisping. bisping isn't a top level fighter and definitely shouldn't be the final stepping stone en route to another title shot. i think henderson fighting the winner of maia/marquardt is the way it should be as both of those guys are on an entirely different level than bisping. dan isn't worthy of another title shot right now.

i think right now it's much more interesting to see silva move up in weight.
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Old 08-25-2009, 04:56 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I think you are overacting a bit, its nice to see soares and anderson try to take control out of ufc brass's hands..Its the least they can do..A fighter of his status should be getting more money than he is getting regardless of whether he is a draw or not.. 10 fight win streak (most of which bein highlight reels) speaks for it self..And he already beat hendo handily, if he doesnt feel hendo deserves a rematch just yet that is his prerogative..Going to a decision with palhares/franklin (a guy AS obliterated 2x mind u) and KOing bisbing arent really the sort Ws that going to sawy minds about the outcome of another encounter with silva..It sure hasnt changed mine..
Nah. He's under contract, he should fight who he's given by Joe Silva in my opinion. Yours seems to be that he shouldn't have to keep his word, live up to his contract? Or just that he should, but he should demand this or that and refuse fights at will which to me makes him a premadona (sp)?

RE: Hendo's decisions.... how quickly people have forgotten about Anderson's two utterly lackluster matches previous to Forrest. Hendo and Anderson are on par for their last three matches it could be argued, but personally i found Hendo's decisions much more entertaining than Anderson's. I'm not saying the guy should be given his walking papers, or that it's necessarily a terrible idea that his camp has put forward. I still love to watch him fight... i simply thing he needs some humility and that he/his camp should stfu in the media with these plans -- take them to their partners in the UFC. humility is a trait good for any fighter. He has a job to do, he signed a contract... he's not bigger than his word. No man is.
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Old 08-25-2009, 05:05 PM   #23 (permalink)
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agreed. its saying, well... you can be the pretend champion for now... because the real champion is somewhere else... but when he comes back... he has the real belt... sooo... you have to fight him to be champion...even though you have been the "champion" for a few fights now.
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Old 08-25-2009, 05:41 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Nah. He's under contract, he should fight who he's given by Joe Silva in my opinion. Yours seems to be that he shouldn't have to keep his word, live up to his contract? Or just that he should, but he should demand this or that and refuse fights at will which to me makes him a premadona (sp)?

RE: Hendo's decisions.... how quickly people have forgotten about Anderson's two utterly lackluster matches previous to Forrest. Hendo and Anderson are on par for their last three matches it could be argued, but personally i found Hendo's decisions much more entertaining than Anderson's. I'm not saying the guy should be given his walking papers, or that it's necessarily a terrible idea that his camp has put forward. I still love to watch him fight... i simply thing he needs some humility and that he/his camp should stfu in the media with these plans -- take them to their partners in the UFC. humility is a trait good for any fighter. He has a job to do, he signed a contract... he's not bigger than his word. No man is.
Are u trying to say a champion dictating who he fights is unheard of Its not like he is ducking hendo, he is just in a special position where he only has 3 fights left so doesn't want to waste it on an opponent he not only has already destroyed..But hasnt even done enough to warrant another title shot (against anderson that is)..

And I am going to pretend u didnt just equate a "champion's" performance to a challenger who its in his best interest to wow the fans/ufc brass so that he can climb the ladder..And win him self a title shot
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Are u trying to say a champion dictating who he fights is unheard of Its not like he is ducking hendo, he is just in a special position where he only has 3 fights left so doesn't want to waste it on an opponent he not only has already destroyed..But hasnt even done enough to warrant another title shot (against anderson that is)..

And I am going to pretend u didnt just equate a "champion's" performance to a challenger who its in his best interest to wow the fans/ufc brass so that he can climb the ladder..And win him self a title shot
alright... so rather than address a completely civil and engaging post you have chosen to be a dicktard.

Thanks for the reminder to check it before wasting my time on red-rep members, homeslice.
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Old 08-25-2009, 10:25 PM   #26 (permalink)
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This is just stupid. If he wants to fight at a higher weight class and not defend his title then just strip him of the title.


Also if Maia beats Marquardt then he deserves an immediate title shot. He would have been 6-0 in the UFC. He shouldn't have to fight any one else.


Henderson doesn't deserve anything. He only has two wins at MW since he lost to Silva (the Franklin win was at LHW). He hasn't done enough to warrant another title shot. Not when you have guy's like Maia and Okami (and Marquardt if he beats Maia) who have actually earned their title shots and are being screwed out of it because of politics.
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Just so you know, these are to contrasting words lol

He is suggestion/demaning i do X = your an idiot.
lol ....they are close enough
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Old 08-26-2009, 01:53 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Am I the only one afraid to watch Maia get a shot at the title, due to the possibility of it turning out just like the Leites fight?

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Nah. He's under contract, he should fight who he's given by Joe Silva in my opinion. Yours seems to be that he shouldn't have to keep his word, live up to his contract? Or just that he should, but he should demand this or that and refuse fights at will which to me makes him a premadona (sp)?

RE: Hendo's decisions.... how quickly people have forgotten about Anderson's two utterly lackluster matches previous to Forrest. Hendo and Anderson are on par for their last three matches it could be argued, but personally i found Hendo's decisions much more entertaining than Anderson's. I'm not saying the guy should be given his walking papers, or that it's necessarily a terrible idea that his camp has put forward. I still love to watch him fight... i simply thing he needs some humility and that he/his camp should stfu in the media with these plans -- take them to their partners in the UFC. humility is a trait good for any fighter. He has a job to do, he signed a contract... he's not bigger than his word. No man is.
The UFC has most of their fighters by the balls, and you seem to advocate that. Most fighters don't speak their mind, they only say what they're allowed to say. Take victories for example, "who would you like to fight", "I'll fight anyone they want me to", that's just BS! There is a very BIG difference between humility and subjugation and unless you're new to the sport or lack common sense, you know where the UFC stands. I was never a big Tito fan, but I respected the fact that he spoke out. These guys deserve some respect from the UFC, and making a suggestion, very likely due to having personal agendas, should not be frowned upon. You seem to go beyond that of keeping ones word. Do you honestly propose subjugation?
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I hate interim titles.
Im with you on that.

I really think that if he wants to stay at another weight for that long of a time frame they just need to tell him to vacate. Who the hell wants to fight for a fake title anyway?
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