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post #31 of 40 (permalink) Old 08-26-2009, 03:39 AM
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post #32 of 40 (permalink) Old 08-26-2009, 08:32 AM
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RE: Hendo's decisions.... how quickly people have forgotten about Anderson's two utterly lackluster matches previous to Forrest. Hendo and Anderson are on par for their last three matches it could be argued, but personally i found Hendo's decisions much more entertaining than Anderson's.
You mean the two matches where Anderson was head and shoulders above his opponent, where even the last guy he tried new things? Could it be that Dans(boring) decisions were more entertaining because he was closer to the competition?

I'm not saying the guy should be given his walking papers, or that it's necessarily a terrible idea that his camp has put forward. I still love to watch him fight... i simply thing he needs some humility and that he/his camp should stfu in the media with these plans -- take them to their partners in the UFC. humility is a trait good for any fighter. He has a job to do, he signed a contract... he's not bigger than his word. No man is.
Stop being so sensitive, it's Anderson manager talking and trying to do his best for his clients. Maybe Sores felt that he's been very good to the Ufc since Anderson doesn't get paid anywhere near the other champions(probably BJ), and I'm sure Machida doesn't either. But then again if Silva lose Dana could just rip up the contract.
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You mean the two matches where Anderson was head and shoulders above his opponent, where even the last guy he tried new things? Could it be that Dans(boring) decisions were more entertaining because he was closer to the competition?

Stop being so sensitive, it's Anderson manager talking and trying to do his best for his clients. Maybe Sores felt that he's been very good to the Ufc since Anderson doesn't get paid anywhere near the other champions(probably BJ), and I'm sure Machida doesn't either. But then again if
Silva lose Dana could just rip up the contract.
Silva could lose 3 in a row and Dana would never cut him. All it would take would be 1 win and people would think about the old silva again.

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alright... so rather than address a completely civil and engaging post you have chosen to be a dicktard.

Thanks for the reminder to check it before wasting my time on red-rep members, homeslice.
How am I being a "dikhard" as u put it when u are the one scooping to insults? There was nothing in my post that strayed from the topic at hand

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Am I the only one afraid to watch Maia get a shot at the title, due to the possibility of it turning out just like the Leites fight?

The UFC has most of their fighters by the balls, and you seem to advocate that. Most fighters don't speak their mind, they only say what they're allowed to say. Take victories for example, "who would you like to fight", "I'll fight anyone they want me to", that's just BS! There is a very BIG difference between humility and subjugation and unless you're new to the sport or lack common sense, you know where the UFC stands. I was never a big Tito fan, but I respected the fact that he spoke out. These guys deserve some respect from the UFC, and making a suggestion, very likely due to having personal agendas, should not be frowned upon. You seem to go beyond that of keeping ones word. Do you honestly propose subjugation?
i'm going to go ahead and ignore the fu*kwit trolling and baiting in this thread and reply to the one poster who's taken the time to not be a d*cktard. If the trolls want to jump back on the copasetic conversation train then they can go ahead and pull their heads out of their asses to do so

Subjugation is adhering to the contractual obligations that you agreed to? I disagree. I just call it living up to your word. He's hardly a slave.

In fact, i don't think the public forum / media is the correct place to bring propositions to your employer or contractual partners (and i hardly think that Silva has no hold over his camp/manager as suggested. Maybe the statement has been blown out of proportion -- that very well may be -- but his disposition towards Henderson has still been juvenile.). This may make me seem like some sort of corporate lackey to you but infact i'm every bit as against 'the man' as the next guy. I happen to have a plethora of contractors of my own so i feel i have something of a unique view of the situation and besides Silva just annoying me with his lack of humility over his last 3 matches (a pervasive sentiment before his Forrest KO) i also happen to think he should do his job as prescribed by his contractual obligations and not piss and moan or belittle Henderson by rolling his eyes every time his name is mentioned. That addresses the humility tip, anyways. My comments on living up to one's word / being a man only relate to the conversation i attempted to have with the first of the head-in-ass brigade who said (sic) that Silva should be able to pick and choose, refuse fights at will. That's not cool and if he decided to put the title on hold in doing so i doubt I'd be the only one telling him to man the fu*k up.

As for your thoughts on the level of excitement in Hendo or Silva's previous three: YES, infact Dan out-wrestling, while not the most exciting method of victory, was more exciting to me than Silva's leg punch on Leitis for example. Sure, excluding Forret, Silva is having a hard time making people engage... but he also refuses to go to the ground lately and while that's his prerogative there is no denying that those two fights were boring as sh*t. At least when Hendo out wrestles someone it's no surprise. When Silva out-points someone in a boring decision then tells the booing fans that it went exactly as planned, that he didn't want to get hit or hurt, all the while being the main event of the evening and what millions have come to see or paid to watch... yeah, that leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

So to reiterate... You said something to imply i must be a new fan to the sport? You don't seem to have a very good point of reference on the way Dan fights? When Dan wins a wrestlers decision it's no surprise and as a fan of his since his first fight in the UFC (17 or 18 i think) i can enjoy it. When Silva wins a listless decision by outpointing someone... i find it less entertaining. Yes sir.

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post #37 of 40 (permalink) Old 08-26-2009, 11:42 AM
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This option definately makes the most sense from a economical POV (lol), but money aside I think it would be interesting to see Hendo and Marqie/Maia fight five rounds in a interim championship match-up.

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Hmm it definitely opens doors up to other fighters. As well as increasing the possible match ups and reward.
But I think the problem is, everyone wants the belt not the interim. It may almost be unfair to whomever wins the interim as they are left in limbo. Unable to challenge for the actual belt, only able to lose their "wanna-be" title.

I'm for and against the idea, weird.

I probably was being sarcastic in the above post. I think you should flame me for it.
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Silva should have make a firm statement about his intentions in another division for this to be a reasonable demand.

IMO if he said, I am moving up to LHW/HW to make a run at the title there, and will return once someone establishes themselves as a legit threat at MW. Then I would have no problem with Maia/Marq vs Hendo for an interim strap, in fact I would prefer it to Silva fighting them in succesion.

To be honest, I have no interest in Silva vs Hendo II, Silva vs Marq II, or even Silva vs Maia right now.

Edit: PS I like the idea of an interim title simply because its five rounds, less chance of a BS decision

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post #40 of 40 (permalink) Old 08-26-2009, 12:35 PM
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As much as I love Silva. Anderson made the decision to move up into LHW. In doing so, he should fight whomever the UFC puts in front of him. He should have some say in who he fights, but he should have absolutely no say in who he doesn't fight (think Couture. He had to fight Lesnar who had a 2-1 record after coming off a win over Heath Herring. Big freakin whoop. As if Heath Herring was ever a contender. Couture still managed to take the fight). As soon as Anderson refuses a fight (unless it's in acceptance of another fight) he should not be able to fight in that division again. If the fight he refuses is in his own weight division, he should be stripped of the title.

Mind you, he is still a long way from title contention so him saying he won't fight Machida doesn't mean anything. If he gets to the point where he is the #1 contender and Machida is still champ and he refuses to fight, he should get the boot from the division. Also for his own weight division, he is a long way from having to decline a fight. There would have to be another 2 fights before he would even get a chance to refuse. At that point, I don't think he would because there will be a ligitimate contender for MW.

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