If Nog got the better of Couture on the feet, what would Fedor do to him? - Page 2 - MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos
UFC The Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) is a U.S.-based mixed martial arts organization, recognized as the largest MMA promotion in the world. The UFC is headquartered in Las Vegas, Nevada and is owned and operated by Zuffa, LLC. This promotion is responsible for solidifying the sport's postion in the history-books. UFC is currently undergoing a remarkable surge in popularity, along with greater mainstream media coverage. UFC programming can now be seen on FOX, FX, and FUEL TV in the United States, as well as in 35 other countries worldwide.

Reply

Old 08-31-2009, 01:50 PM   #11 (permalink)
Featherweight
 
Bob Pataki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,048
Bob Pataki is on another level nowBob Pataki is on another level nowBob Pataki is on another level nowBob Pataki is on another level nowBob Pataki is on another level nowBob Pataki is on another level nowBob Pataki is on another level nowBob Pataki is on another level nowBob Pataki is on another level nowBob Pataki is on another level nowBob Pataki is on another level now
Randy was so close to being KOd by Nog, he completely buckled and looked out, there was no control to how he fell he just went limp but somehow recovered.

On the subject of MMA math, what I have discussed isn't using that. If we can't use a fighters performances as a point of comparison then we may as well say every fighter can beat every fighter because every fight is different.

No, obviously not. Nog has fairly fast hands for a HW and dropped Randy. Fedor has better head movement than Nog, more power and faster hands imo. That is constructive analysis not MMA math. I'm basically saying I think Fedor is far more dangerous on the feet than Nog, would be harder to hit, has faster hands and serious power so I think he'd KO Randy based on what I saw Saturday. No MMA math to see here.

Just wanted to get that out there
Bob Pataki is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 08-31-2009, 02:43 PM   #12 (permalink)
Amateur
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 111
m0nkey is a name known to allm0nkey is a name known to allm0nkey is a name known to allm0nkey is a name known to allm0nkey is a name known to allm0nkey is a name known to allm0nkey is a name known to allm0nkey is a name known to allm0nkey is a name known to allm0nkey is a name known to allm0nkey is a name known to all
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pataki View Post
On the subject of MMA math, what I have discussed isn't using that. If we can't use a fighters performances as a point of comparison then we may as well say every fighter can beat every fighter because every fight is different.
rep+

Ever since the matchup came about i've always thought Fedor would beat Randy, Still do. Fedor has alot of power in them fists, he has more flare about his striking to than Randys. Fedor is lightweight off his back, far from a Fedor nuthugger i think Fedor would have Randy in any given situation this day and age. Fedor may respect him too much to to give him some heavy hits like what he gave Sylvia.
m0nkey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2009, 03:08 PM   #13 (permalink)
of Nazareth
 
Soojooko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: The Moon
Posts: 7,962
Soojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF MaterialSoojooko Is Future HOF Material
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pataki View Post
Randy was so close to being KOd by Nog, he completely buckled and looked out, there was no control to how he fell he just went limp but somehow recovered.

On the subject of MMA math, what I have discussed isn't using that. If we can't use a fighters performances as a point of comparison then we may as well say every fighter can beat every fighter because every fight is different.

No, obviously not. Nog has fairly fast hands for a HW and dropped Randy. Fedor has better head movement than Nog, more power and faster hands imo. That is constructive analysis not MMA math. I'm basically saying I think Fedor is far more dangerous on the feet than Nog, would be harder to hit, has faster hands and serious power so I think he'd KO Randy based on what I saw Saturday. No MMA math to see here.

Just wanted to get that out there
Yeah, the MMA math comment was a bit mean. I still stand by what I said also : If Fedor had ate one of Randys bombs, how would he have reacted? I really don't know myself. I accept that Fedor would have never been hit as often as Nog did. Hmmm.... interesting, but no, I stick by my guns on this one. In my opinion, saturadys fight doesn't really show me much regards how well Randy would do against Fedor.

Last edited by Soojooko : 08-31-2009 at 03:10 PM.
Soojooko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2009, 03:18 PM   #14 (permalink)
Flyweight
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 209
daitrong has a spectacular aura aboutdaitrong has a spectacular aura aboutdaitrong has a spectacular aura aboutdaitrong has a spectacular aura aboutdaitrong has a spectacular aura aboutdaitrong has a spectacular aura aboutdaitrong has a spectacular aura aboutdaitrong has a spectacular aura aboutdaitrong has a spectacular aura aboutdaitrong has a spectacular aura aboutdaitrong has a spectacular aura about
although his reaction speed can't be like it was in his 30s, it has remained UNCHANGED in the past few years. The reason why he looked so slow in reacting was because his opponent was simply faster. All of his previous opponents that he fought since his return were much bigger than he was. All of them were 260+ pounds. Basic physics wills tell you that a bigger man can not be as fast as a smaller man. Nog was about 230ish when he fought randy. Randy, with his diminished reaction time, couldn't react fast enough. With that in mind, fedor is will crush randy, past or present. Randy wins 50% of his fights, that show you if anything that the dude is inconsistent.
daitrong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2009, 03:18 PM   #15 (permalink)
Banned
 
coldcall420's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: banned
Posts: 0
Blog Entries: 1
coldcall420 Is in the naughty cornercoldcall420 Is in the naughty cornercoldcall420 Is in the naughty cornercoldcall420 Is in the naughty cornercoldcall420 Is in the naughty cornercoldcall420 Is in the naughty cornercoldcall420 Is in the naughty cornercoldcall420 Is in the naughty cornercoldcall420 Is in the naughty cornercoldcall420 Is in the naughty cornercoldcall420 Is in the naughty corner
Honestly...IMO...Its over at this point at HW for him......

Possibly a drop to 205 could bring some new life back, but if he cant beat Nog(not shitting on Nog) he isnt gonna beat Fedor....

I think at this point the fight i really want to see is Mir vs. Nog and lets se what really would have happened....

CC420
coldcall420 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2009, 03:43 PM   #16 (permalink)
Middleweight
 
steveo412's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,422
steveo412 is a glorious beacon of lightsteveo412 is a glorious beacon of lightsteveo412 is a glorious beacon of lightsteveo412 is a glorious beacon of lightsteveo412 is a glorious beacon of lightsteveo412 is a glorious beacon of lightsteveo412 is a glorious beacon of lightsteveo412 is a glorious beacon of lightsteveo412 is a glorious beacon of lightsteveo412 is a glorious beacon of lightsteveo412 is a glorious beacon of light
Fedor would have finished him in the first round with strikes where Nog could have but went for a pretty weak choke that isnt going to finish many if any top fighters. He should have used GnP to finish or to take back and set up a RNC.
steveo412 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2009, 03:50 PM   #17 (permalink)
Featherweight
 
Bob Pataki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,048
Bob Pataki is on another level nowBob Pataki is on another level nowBob Pataki is on another level nowBob Pataki is on another level nowBob Pataki is on another level nowBob Pataki is on another level nowBob Pataki is on another level nowBob Pataki is on another level nowBob Pataki is on another level nowBob Pataki is on another level nowBob Pataki is on another level now
Quote:
Originally Posted by daitrong View Post
although his reaction speed can't be like it was in his 30s, it has remained UNCHANGED in the past few years. The reason why he looked so slow in reacting was because his opponent was simply faster. All of his previous opponents that he fought since his return were much bigger than he was. All of them were 260+ pounds. Basic physics wills tell you that a bigger man can not be as fast as a smaller man. Nog was about 230ish when he fought randy. Randy, with his diminished reaction time, couldn't react fast enough. With that in mind, fedor is will crush randy, past or present. Randy wins 50% of his fights, that show you if anything that the dude is inconsistent.
This I agree with. Randy's boxing is effective against the bigger and slower heavyweights. His record shows that for the most part fighters that are lighter on their feet and can throw sharp shots have give him problems, and Fedor is such a fast heavyweight and from what I can tell much faster than Nog. I also think Fedor would just be happy to explode and throw big hooks at Randy in his typical fashion and Randy can't take that sort of punishment.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soojooko View Post
Yeah, the MMA math comment was a bit mean. I still stand by what I said also : If Fedor had ate one of Randys bombs, how would he have reacted? I really don't know myself. I accept that Fedor would have never been hit as often as Nog did. Hmmm.... interesting, but no, I stick by my guns on this one. In my opinion, saturadys fight doesn't really show me much regards how well Randy would do against Fedor.
Yeah I wouldn't expect Fedor to get hit as much. Nog tends to walk forward and exchange like it doesn't matter, Fedor bounces around, has better head movement and explodes into wild combos so fast its ridiculous. Fedor stood up with CroCop when he was on form and did well, I really don't see how Randy would give him any problems whatsoever, and I definitely don't think Randy could take many shots from him which he would certainly land plenty of imo.

Fair enough though, I respect your opinion
Bob Pataki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2009, 05:02 PM   #18 (permalink)
Middleweight
 
VolcomX311's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: L.A.
Posts: 2,817
VolcomX311 Is Respected By All He CrossesVolcomX311 Is Respected By All He CrossesVolcomX311 Is Respected By All He CrossesVolcomX311 Is Respected By All He CrossesVolcomX311 Is Respected By All He CrossesVolcomX311 Is Respected By All He CrossesVolcomX311 Is Respected By All He CrossesVolcomX311 Is Respected By All He CrossesVolcomX311 Is Respected By All He CrossesVolcomX311 Is Respected By All He CrossesVolcomX311 Is Respected By All He Crosses
Fedor would stoically walk in like he was attending a funeral and walk out having attended one.
__________________
CERTIFIED STRENGTH & CONDITIONING COACH - NSCA CSCS
VolcomX311 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2009, 06:41 PM   #19 (permalink)
NO. 1 *BONER*
 
limba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 7,727
limba Is Future HOF Materiallimba Is Future HOF Materiallimba Is Future HOF Materiallimba Is Future HOF Materiallimba Is Future HOF Materiallimba Is Future HOF Materiallimba Is Future HOF Materiallimba Is Future HOF Materiallimba Is Future HOF Materiallimba Is Future HOF Materiallimba Is Future HOF Material
fedor would play with randy. not even randy's "dirty boxing" could save him.
fedor is to explosive for randy. wild hooks, crazy takedowns, incredible subsmissions...it's a done deal.
__________________
.



BELIEVE!




Last edited by limba : 09-01-2009 at 04:25 AM.
limba is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2009, 06:53 PM   #20 (permalink)
Featherweight
 
looney liam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: manchester, england
Posts: 1,246
looney liam is on another level nowlooney liam is on another level nowlooney liam is on another level nowlooney liam is on another level nowlooney liam is on another level nowlooney liam is on another level nowlooney liam is on another level nowlooney liam is on another level nowlooney liam is on another level nowlooney liam is on another level nowlooney liam is on another level now
fedor has alot more power than nogueira. plus, fedor likes to rush in and overwhelm his opponent before they can get their bearing. if randy takes a fedor flurry he is going down no doubt about it. randy would have to clinch and not give fedor the space to unload.
__________________
<--- the punch that started it all!

My current favirote fighters
Anderson Silva
Junior Dos Santos
Mauricio Rua
Alistair Overeem
Jon Jones

WAR dan hardy, paul daley, ross pearson and terry etim doing it for the britz!
looney liam is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

VerticalSports
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Volleyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums
Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
Powered by vBulletin Copyright © 2000-2009 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios