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post #1 of 41 (permalink) Old 09-07-2009, 05:34 PM Thread Starter
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Bj is my 2nd favorite fighter, but I think he has his hands full

You all know I am a BJ nuthugger. But to me, Diego is a serious threat to his title. He is a huge LW, bigger than BJ. And he has cardio for days.

He is a much stronger man than Kenny Florian and can push an even faster pace than Kenny. Not to mention, Diego's chin has proven to be rock solid against top WW's, unlike Kenny's.

If Diego uses the same strategy as Kenny, I think he can beat BJ. He is a better wrestler than Kenny, and if he uses Octogon control like Kenny did and just survive the 5 rounds. I could see him edging out a decision.

If you look at this fight from a distance, it looks like a bad matchup for Diego. He is fighting a superior striker, that he cant takedown. Very simlar to Kenny. But rumor has it that 2 judges had Kenny winning that fight (insane), but it cant be ignored.

I think if Diego can survive the early rounds, he has a good chance at winning a decision in the later rounds.

I know that is everyones gameplan. But according to sme judges it was working for Kenny. And Diego is a superior fighter to Kenny. Bigger, stronger, and just tougher.

I like both fighters, and will be rooting for BJ. I favor BJ slightly in this fight. But I wouldnt be shocked in the least if Diego managed to win this fight. In my eyes he is the 2nd best LW in the world without question. I liked him at WW, at LW he is a monster.

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I couldn't disagree more. The only advantage I would give Diego is cardio.. And we say that every time BJ fights and he still proves us wrong.

He isn't going to take BJ down, even if he does BJ is a much better grappler. And BJ's stand up is much better.

To me, diego has the same problem every other figher has against BJ. He can't stand with him and he can't take him down. This is going to go like every other BJ fight. BJ dominates the fight standing. Eventually he will wait for the right moment and then take him down and sub him.

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Interesting thread. I beg to differ, however. There are quite a few aspects that make Kenny quite the different fighter than Diego. The first and foremost is BJJ. Diego's wrestling may be better than Kenny's, however his BJJ is nothing like Kenny's, and not even Kenny could hold BJ off on the ground for very long.

I also think BJ has some of the most inventive TDD techniques out there, and was one of the first fighters that gave Hughes such a problem to take down.

That leaves striking yet to be analyzed. Which I'd give the edge to Penn. I think Penn has out-stricken some of the better prospects of LW, as well as done very well in WW. I think the fight will probably end up with Diego getting dropped on the feet. I think Penn will choose to follow him down, and probably RNC him. I think Joe Daddy and Diego have similar skill-sets, therefore I see Diego being a step down from Kenny, for BJ.
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I think Diego is a joke as a threat to BJ. Diego`s wrestling is decent at best but no where near the level it would need to be to be effectively used against Penn. The biggest joke though is when people bring up his striking which is so ridiculously overrated, I mean Kenny Florian`s striking was really overrated by alot of people going into his fight with BJ but even Kenny`s striking is better than the ridiculous brawling Deigo does I mean if Sanchez trys to brawl with BJ the way he did against Guida he will end up swinging at air from behind two black eyes, that shit will not fly against a striker of BJ`s caliber. I really dont see any possible advantage Diego can be seen as having besides possibly strength and conditioning but judging from the Florian fight that hardly seems like it will prove to be a problem even if Diego manages to survive to the later rounds. Bottom line I don`t understand why people believe Sanchez can win, he may be exciting to watch but he is not an elite level fighter at even a single element while BJ is easily one of the best boxers in MMA and is a world champion BJJ black belt with the best TD defense in the division.




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I couldn't disagree more. The only advantage I would give Diego is cardio.. And we say that every time BJ fights and he still proves us wrong.

He isn't going to take BJ down, even if he does BJ is a much better grappler. And BJ's stand up is much better.

To me, diego has the same problem every other figher has against BJ. He can't stand with him and he can't take him down. This is going to go like every other BJ fight. BJ dominates the fight standing. Eventually he will wait for the right moment and then take him down and sub him.
You may possibly be under-rating Diego's striking. While I'd agree BJ's is better, Diego has trained with Oscar De Le Hoya. Something to be considered, at the very least.
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Interesting thread. I beg to differ, however. There are quite a few aspects that make Kenny quite the different fighter than Diego. The first and foremost is BJJ. Diego's wrestling may be better than Kenny's, however his BJJ is nothing like Kenny's, and not even Kenny could hold BJ off on the ground for very long.

I also think BJ has some of the most inventive TDD techniques out there, and was one of the first fighters that gave Hughes such a problem to take down.

That leaves striking yet to be analyzed. Which I'd give the edge to Penn. I think Penn has out-stricken some of the better prospects of LW, as well as done very well in WW. I think the fight will probably end up with Diego getting dropped on the feet. I think Penn will choose to follow him down, and probably RNC him. I think Joe Daddy and Diego have similar skill-sets, therefore I see Diego being a step down from Kenny, for BJ.

I agree with most of this. I don't think Kenny's BJJ is that much better than Diego's. I actually think Diego has very underrated BJJ.

But I agree with your analysis at the end. BJ drops Diego, follows him and subs him.

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I think BJ will submit him after he outstrikes him for a couple of rounds, BJ by choke in the 3rd is my guess
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You may possibly be under-rating Diego's striking. While I'd agree BJ's is better, Diego has trained with Oscar De Le Hoya. Something to be considered, at the very least.
That means nothing. Kimbo slice trained with Bas Rutten. When have you seen Kimbo KO someone with a liver kick? Just because they train with someone doesn't mean they can emulate someone. Brock Lesnar trained with Royce Gracie, but I haven't really seen him go out and use technical BJJ. Diego's striking has improved, yes. But most of the punches he throws come from below his shoulders and, in turn, he lacks power. Not to mention he has a brawling style where he swings wildly. A boxer of BJ's caliber will side step his attack and take advantage of his rather sloppy style. Not to mention BJ is one of the hardest hitters p4p in MMA. Numerous guys who have fought at both LW and WW have said BJ is the hardest hitter they have ever faced.

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I think Diego is a joke as a threat to BJ. Diego`s wrestling is decent at best but no where near the level it would need to be to be effectively used against Penn. The biggest joke though is when people bring up his striking which is so ridiculously overrated, I mean Kenny Florian`s striking was really overrated by alot of people going into his fight with BJ but even Kenny`s striking is better than the ridiculous brawling Deigo does I mean if Sanchez trys to brawl with BJ the way he did against Guida he will end up swinging at air from behind two black eyes, that shit will not fly against a striker of BJ`s caliber. I really dont see any possible advantage Diego can be seen as having besides possibly strength and conditioning but judging from the Florian fight that hardly seems like it will prove to be a problem even if Diego manages to survive to the later rounds. Bottom line I don`t understand why people believe Sanchez can win, he may be exciting to watch but he is not an elite level fighter at even a single element while BJ is easily one of the best boxers in MMA and is a world champion BJJ black belt with the best TD defense in the division.
I see you're point and your probably right...but blind hope keeps me from agreeing .
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While I'll agree that training with a particular individual doesn't guarantee you've garnered any of their techniques, I do believe Diego's striking has come far since he's started training with Oscar.

I suppose what I'm saying is that although I believe BJ will have an advantage in striking against Diego, Diego has been putting forth a lot of effort into developing his own striking, and now that he's aware what sort of opponent he's up against, we'll certainly see a hard-working fighter like Diego come in with more crisp striking than people are expecting. Again, I believe Penn will most likely rock Diego, and end up finishing him on the ground with either a submission or some GnP, but I think we'll see a heavily improved Diego come fight night.
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