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Old 09-09-2009, 01:14 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Fedor fans can be so sensitive. I mean, I love the guy, he's amazing, but he isn't beyond reproach.
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:25 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Fedor fans can be so sensitive. I mean, I love the guy, he's amazing, but he isn't beyond reproach.
Yeah, I mean... I disagree with CroCop about how much this hurts Fedor's legacy as I don't see how the competition in the UFC is heads and shoulders above the competition in Strikeforce's HW division, but whatever. Fedor doesn't care about his critics; Fedor doesn't even pay attention.
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:30 PM   #73 (permalink)
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So if Fedor doesn't care, then why should his fans get so worked up about it?
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:33 PM   #74 (permalink)
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This made me feel so useless...

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Old 09-09-2009, 07:55 PM   #75 (permalink)
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That would mean you think Fedor is a worse fighter than Rogers and sylvia right? I means Arlovski was beat by Sylvia twice and Rogers and Fedor, by your own admission, was getting worked standing up against Arlovski. A 16 second KO is impressive but if you have been doing it all the time then doing it again and against someone with a glass jaw proves only that he can destroy chandeliers.



I never said he is a much better fighter... stop putting words in my mouth. I have said that they are right around the same ranking to me right now and the reason i put Carwin higher is because he has shown to be a well rounded fighter who is good everywhere. I do not want to say a fighter who i know is good everywhere is not as good as someone who i know is good in one aspect of MMA. This is not a kickboxing match and until i hear or see Rogers having a good ground game i will not say he is a better MMA fighter until i see him defend takedowns against Fedor maybe? or see him off his back against fedor. i want to see how complete a fighter he is before I say he is better than someone i know is a complete fighter. Is that really so wrong?

Alright well if were gonna take it this route then YOU think that Sexiyama is better then nate marquardt because he didnt just knock Alan Belcher out like Nate did to Maia.

See 2 can play this game.

All i was saying is that its silly that to you Carwins fight with Gonzaga is more Impressive then Rogers fight with Arlovski. You seem to look down on Rogers because he just knocks his opponents out as quick as he can instead of getting his ass kicked a bit then coming back and winning.
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Alright well if were gonna take it this route then YOU think that Sexiyama is better then nate marquardt because he didnt just knock Alan Belcher out like Nate did to Maia.

See 2 can play this game.

All i was saying is that its silly that to you Carwins fight with Gonzaga is more Impressive then Rogers fight with Arlovski. You seem to look down on Rogers because he just knocks his opponents out as quick as he can instead of getting his ass kicked a bit then coming back and winning.
Yes this is exactly what I am saying. I look down upon fighters that get quick KOs. I never said anything about Nate because I know he is a well rounded fighter. Please will you two listen to what I am saying. I do not "look down on Rogers." You were "looking down" on Carwin because he got caught while standing up and it looked like he might lose that fight even though it was far too early to call.

I have only said that since none of us know anything about his ground game and he has only faced one big name who according to you is known for his stand up, we can not say he will not be like Kongo and get worked whenever he is taken to the ground. I can, and anyone else who thinks this way, say that since I know the Carwin has a complete fighting game and I do not know anything about Rogers complete game Carwin ranks higher on my list of fighters. Obviously you two think that unknowns are good and feel at home saying he is better than someone who has a complete game.
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Seems legit to me. It isn't too critical, and seems to genuinely question Fedor's motives.
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So if Fedor doesn't care, then why should his fans get so worked up about it?
That was precisely my point.

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This made me feel so useless...

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I don't know what you're saying with this. I'm not trying to say that CroCop is right or that Fedor is overrated or anything. I think Fedor is simply unphased by criticism; he'll beat whoever comes in front of him no matter what - and make more money doing it than he would if he signed his sole persona over to the UFC while doing it.

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Seems legit to me. It isn't too critical, and seems to genuinely question Fedor's motives.

I don't think it's legit at all actually. To say a fighter that has really given no indication that he cares about his record or what critics think of him as "ducking" the marginally better competition in the UFC is a cheap shot if I've ever seen one.

That said, I still think it will just role off Fedor's back like every criticism does.

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Old 09-10-2009, 02:29 AM   #79 (permalink)
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But I doubt Cro Cop is trying to hurt Fedor's feelings. He's just answering a question.
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Old 09-10-2009, 02:40 AM   #80 (permalink)
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I don't think it's a cheapshot at all. He's saying the same thing as all of us. I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I actually can't believe I'm getting involved in this thread. I'm sick of the Fedor talk. Until he gets in the cage, I can't make a judgement on the legitimacy of the legend...and no-one else can either.
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