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Crocop Takes a Cheapshot at Fedor aswell!

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#1 · (Edited)
Talk about being a corporate hack!!!
From mmafanhouse
Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic uttered the phrase "I don't know" more than a dozen times Tuesday afternoon when asked for his thoughts about why Fedor Emelianenko declined to sign with the UFC, saying over and over again that he can't figure out what is preventing his old Pride rival from fighting in the world's biggest mixed martial arts promotion.

Cro Cop, who lost to Fedor four years ago in Pride in a battle that was widely regarded at the time as featuring the two best heavyweights in MMA, said he couldn't come up with a logical explanation for why Fedor would prefer to fight in Strikeforce/M-1 Global co-promotions, rather than in the UFC.

"I like Fedor as a fighter, as a man, I don't want to insult Fedor, but I don't understand his attitude -- I don't know him well enough to say anymore, I don't know if someone else controls him," Cro Cop said. "I don't know. I don't know the situation. But I really don't understand why he doesn't want to enter the UFC. Definitely the UFC offered him the best possible deal, to pay him much more than Dream can offer or Strikeforce can offer, but he's just refusing to go there. I don't know why. I think he should take the challenge but why, i don't know. I don't think he's afraid, but I think he wants to keep his perfect record, maybe he thinks the UFC is too tough. I think he should come. Why he's not there, I don't know."

Cro Cop continued in that vein for a couple more minutes, repeatedly saying that he doesn't know what Fedor is thinking in his refusal to sign with the UFC. Cro Cop stressed that he respects Fedor, but he also said he believes the UFC has the best heavyweight division of any MMA promotion, and that he believes Fedor should fight the best.

The bottom line, though, is that Fedor has made it very clear what his reasons are: He's made a business decision to work for M-1 Global exclusively, and he won't fight in the UFC until the UFC agrees to co-promote with M-1. And that means we all need to accept the likelihood that Fedor will never fight in the UFC
 
#6 · (Edited)
lol the dudes probably been spoonfed this response by dana white himself....What makes me laugh is ppl bitching at me for expressing my opinion and defending crocops right to his...how ironic
 
#9 ·
A cheap shot is hitting him in the back of the leg with a lead pipe 25 minutes before his fight... this is his opinion.

I'm glad he's found a business solution that works for him, but in the interest of his career... he picked the wrong avenue. Now instead of Fedor going down in the record books as the best HW ever... he's going to be known as "could have been the best HW ever".
 
#10 ·
Cro Cop - "Fedor completely wrecked my shit when we fought, he kicked my ass, he's better than I am, he proved it. He will also eventually fight Overeem, the man who beat the shit out of me. This must be a good time for me to say he is avoiding tough competition while I sit and explain to everyone how I'm manning up and fighting guys who have the UFC brand slapped across their face".

That's what I got from the article, anyways.

Honestly, people trying to bring down Fedor's reputation based on the fact that he's not fighting with the UFC brand slapped across his face, lose almost all respect from me instantly.
 
#12 · (Edited)
If you want to get caught up in the brand recognition, that's your business. But it would be a far cry to try a convince anyone that the UFC doesn't have the strongest HW division.

I bet you were also one of those kids that only liked "underground music" and labeled anyone with a big record deal a sell out, while claiming you use to like them when they were still good.
 
#14 ·
Ummm....why isn't this a hack at Fedor?
I don't know the situation.
Oh really?

Definitely the UFC offered him the best possible deal, to pay him much more than Dream can offer or Strikeforce can offer
Umm that sounds like speculation.

I think he should take the challenge but why, i don't know. I don't think he's afraid...
So you don't think he's afraid?

...but I think he wants to keep his perfect record, maybe he thinks the UFC is too tough. I think he should come. Why he's not there, I don't know.
Oddly enough....oh wait, I see what you did there!

CC is a crafty one! I still love him though :) hopefully this was just a language barrier thing so he couldn't really say what he meant.
 
#22 ·
Because Arlovski has a weak ass chin, and the only chance Rogers has at winning any fight he is in is by KO'in his opponent, lucky for him, Arlovski is relatively easy to KO.
Why is his only chance at winning a fight is by KO'ing someone? Why would you say this? Has Rogers been owned on the ground multiple times and I'm just not aware of it? For all we know, Rogers has a sick ass ground game. As it is, he knocked out Arlovski, a top 10 or even top 5 at the time, who has some of the best striking in the HW division.


Well standing up from a Bjj black belt being on top of you is very impressive... if you think a good top game is directly related to wrestling then your grappling knowledge is obviously not very fine tuned. Why does Bj Penn have such a strong top game, even though he isn't known for his wrestling? Oh ya, that's right, Bjj.
My point is that Carwin has a background in wrestling, his ability to be taken down by Gonzaga(who isn't known for his takedowns) is not impressive. Standing back up is all well and good, but again, he's a wrestler, he should be able to get back up when someone takes him down. He did well standing back up, I never took anything away from him there.

He "completely destroyed" Arlovski by sloppily knocking him out in the first? :confused03: I can't believe people are actually on Rogers' nuts, and think he is a good fighter, what a joke.
Yes, knocking out one of the best strikers at HW and a top 10 or top 5 guy in the first without much trouble, means he didn't "destroy" him. It was definielty a hard fought victory for Rogers...

It's pretty obvious you are just trying to justify Fedor's next opponent though, so I guess I can see why.
I'm not trying to justify anything, Rogers is more impressive than Carwin at this point.
 
#26 ·
Why is his only chance at winning a fight is by KO'ing someone? Why would you say this? Has Rogers been owned on the ground multiple times and I'm just not aware of it? For all we know, Rogers has a sick ass ground game. As it is, he knocked out Arlovski, a top 10 or even top 5 at the time, who has some of the best striking in the HW division.
Ya ya, Rogers might have an awesome ground game that no one has yet to see, but that's highly unlikely. The guy's 10-0 with 9 T/KO's, 1 submission(from punches), and only 1 of his fights has lasted more than 1 round. How is that not a KO artist?

Maybe I'm jumping the gun in assuming that he is not as one dimensional as I'm proposing, but we'll see. Still, though, nothing about Rogers, other than his power, impresses me.
 
#25 ·
this thread is ludicrous (par for the topic of Fedor) and i'm seeing all sorts of otherwise amicable and thoughtful posters going sideways, hah. A few funny notes...

- The entire premises of this thread is that CroCop giving his opinion as respectfully as he could translates into Dana White's hand up his ass, elbow deep without mercy... awesome.

- MMA math is being used to demonstrate that Fedor has no challenges in the UFC... well sirs, MMA math is fu*ktarded. Otherwise by your own equations... Brock Lesnar > Randy Couture > Tim Sylvia > Arlovski (and Mir)... so Brock has beat more of these ex-UFC champs than Fedor? Brock must be as good as, or better than, fedor!? hah.

- arlovski is arguably the best HW striker in MMA? haha... comedy. sure, there was a time that this was widely accepted... but that issue has been put to rest quite thoroughly.

I doubt Fedor would be as dismissive of his competition in north america as some of his fans are but what can you do. To those who might be offended by the label zealots and/or militants: step back from the hateoraid long enough to see that the simple fact of the matter is that Fedor doesn't care about the competition to be had in the UFC. he's not hiding, he just doesn't care. or, more specifically... he cares more about promoting MMA in russia than solidifying his legacy abroad.

He's alright with that... so why make excuses for it ad nauseam?

*because a person can't comment on a fedor issue without being called a nuthugger of some variety i will stipulate i've been a Fedor fan longer than most here, probably. since watching him beat Semmy in pride for the first time, live on BEV. And while i was disappointed that he shafted fans by refusing to capture the UFC strap i also recognize his priorities are different than those of the majority of savvy MMA fans. Nothing worth spazing and carrying on over...

but anyways, i end this post with an acknowledgement that it is likely to be flanked by divergent opinions of fanboyisms, lost forever to the depths of an ocean of e-tarded poop flinging in 3, 2, 1...
 
#49 ·
this thread is ludicrous (par for the topic of Fedor) and i'm seeing all sorts of otherwise amicable and thoughtful posters going sideways, hah. A few funny notes...

- The entire premises of this thread is that CroCop giving his opinion as respectfully as he could translates into Dana White's hand up his ass, elbow deep without mercy... awesome.

CroCop is talking trash about an organization that has at least two heavyweights who have destroyed him. And he's talking trash about a guy who murdered him in his prime.

- MMA math is being used to demonstrate that Fedor has no challenges in the UFC... well sirs, MMA math is fu*ktarded. Otherwise by your own equations... Brock Lesnar > Randy Couture > Tim Sylvia > Fedor... so Fedor has already lost to brock i guess? hah.

We're talking directly about a fighter Fedor has beat. He's beaten a TON of UFC HW champs and some of the top guys in the UFC currently. And your retarded MMA math doesn't work because Tim Sylvia never beat Fedor. No one has, not a single person in training or in a match has gotten the best of Fedor.


- arlovski is arguably the best HW striker in MMA? haha... comedy. sure, there was a time that this was widely accepted... but that issue has been put to rest quite thoroughly.

He was on a six fight win streak and was rated top 5, and was training with Freddy Roach. He wasn't a good striker? Watch his last ~8 fights.


Replies in bold. I won't neg rep you because of your last few statements but man, I signed in just to post this. The MMA math thing was one of the dumbest I've read to date.
 
#27 ·
Cro Cop is just speaking the truth. Fedor should come to the UFC which is the elite leauge..

The best fighters in the world fight in the UFC so what it Fedor doing in Strikeforce?

He's losing his glow..
 
#29 ·
crocop the guy whon ran from k-1 because he couldnt cut it , then ran to pride and couldnt cut it and now he's finishing his career in the UFC and a mediocre fighter
 
#33 ·
Ran from Pride? Really? you mean the MMA organization that went under and left all the Pride guys with no job or organization to fight in? The same organization he went 20-4 in, with loses to Fedor, Randleman, Nog, and Hunt? He went 16-7 in K-1 which I hardly call being ran out of (in which he was on a four fight win streak when he left). You're right what an over rated bum.

You're entitled to your dislike of Cro Cop but don't become the tool who lets their dislike over-ride common sense, and make ludicrous statements.
 
#31 ·
To me it just sounds like Cro Cop is making his opinion known, it's not like he's the only one in the world with the same opinion. Come on guys, Strikeforce has 3 notable HW's in Rogers, Werdum and Overeem. How long before he goes through those 3? By the end of next year he'll have beaten just about all of SF's HW's and then there really is no way he can avoid the UFC any longer (well unless Bob Sapp and Paul Buentello want a shot). I don't see any sence of a cheap shot, just a valid opinion in Cro Cop's statement.
 
#34 ·
I think a lot of people are puzzled by Fedor's decision, so add Mirko to that list. No big deal.

However, if you did want to accuse Mirko of hypocrisy, one could point out that Dana stated on the record that Mirko turned down several possible opponents in the HW div. when they spoke. This could be taken as evidence as that Mirko is also guilty of what he's accusing Fedor of being.

Overall, it's not really relevant: Mirko is past his prime, Fedor will not fight in the UFC anytime soon (if ever) and in the event that he does, he will likely be well past his prime anyway.
 
#37 ·
Both Rogers and Carwin are good up and coming fighters but Carwin is in a tougher league and has foughten the tougher group of fighters..

Fedor should just end all this "Madness" :) and come fight in the UFC with the big boys..
 
#42 ·
Don't see how Cro cop took a cheapshot at Fedor. I think it's damn clear Fedor is either morally against the UFC, or just wants to have an easier time keeping his record perfect.

I really think everyone should get together and discredit all the achievements Fedor has made because he clearly doesn't fight for the fans. He isn't even interested in being the best, which if I'm not mistaken, is what anyone who is serious about this sport should be striving for.

People just need to forget about this guy and let him become a flop. All this attention he's getting for not joining the UFC is exactly what he wants...lets just forget about this guy, he's a joke.
 
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