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Old 09-16-2009, 06:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Does he have a wrestling base to prevent from getting taken down or getting back up when he does get taken down? Doesn't sound like it which means he will get destroyed.
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No doubt Mariusz is a beast, literally as strong as they come but that won't count for much when he has a former NCAA heavyweight champ running towards him.
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Worlds strongest man? Theres no such thing, I hate it when people put this label on a person, it has no meaning. What is he the strongest at? lifting barrels and sand bags in a race against other roid heads? Lets get him off the juice, in the octagon so we can see how "strong" his chin is.
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Worlds strongest man? Theres no such thing, I hate it when people put this label on a person, it has no meaning. What is he the strongest at? lifting barrels and sand bags in a race against other roid heads? Lets get him off the juice, in the octagon so we can see how "strong" his chin is.
Why would how talented he is at mixed martial arts prove with any more certainty that he is the "world's strongest man"?
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Worlds strongest man? Theres no such thing, I hate it when people put this label on a person, it has no meaning. What is he the strongest at? lifting barrels and sand bags in a race against other roid heads? Lets get him off the juice, in the octagon so we can see how "strong" his chin is.
I believe Mariusz did Sambo in high school, and casually dabbled in other submission art forms throughout the years, but that's all I've got.
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I don't know if you guys have seen a strongman in person, but it's a different kind of strength. It's really insane.

Their grip strength alone in MMA will be huge. A guy like that could literally break a smaller man's arm bone structure by squeezing. You'll be afraid to throw jabs because if he catches your arm, and knows even one thing to do from there, you're in a bad way.

Their core is also unbelievable, taking someone like this guy down will not be an easy task. And Lesnar couldn't even take Couture down.

And they're not slow. Strongmen competitions have a decent amount of speed-orientated tasks. Plus events like rock lift and log drags will translate well to wrestling throws.

I dunno, maybe he'll have a glass chin and gas in 30 seconds. If not though...

edit: just found out he runs a 5:40 sec mile, deadlifts 1000lbs, and can overhead press over 600lbs.

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To answer the question posed on the thread title. In my opinion, theoretically yes, but I don't think Mariusz has the time needed to catch up skill & experience wise. I don't mean Mariusz can't catch up to Brock's "MMA" skills or experience, but his long established wrestling skills and competition experience. Theoretically, yes, realistically, Mariusz is definitely beast enough, but I don't see it happening.
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To answer the question posed on the thread title. In my opinion, theoretically yes, but I don't think Mariusz has the time needed to catch up skill & experience wise. I don't mean Mariusz can't catch up to Brock's "MMA" skills or experience, but his long established wrestling skills and competition experience. Theoretically, yes, realistically, Mariusz is definitely beast enough, but I don't see it happening.
a: he has combat experience, used to be a kickboxer long ago. I remember reading that he quit because he didn't like getting hit in the head. It won't take long for him to get as good as Lesnar standing or on the ground, wrestling is another story. The strength advantage Mariusz would have over brock would be huge, that is if he continues to train like a powerlifter, I think the majority of people don't understand how strong powerlifters are, especially the abs, the lower back and the legs.

b: if he continues to take legal supplements that mimic hgh and anabolic steroids he will be able to compete probably until around 43 or 44, that's if he's really dedicated to the sport

c: whoever mentioned his gifts in grip strength is 100% correct, these guys do farmer carries with weights in excess of 300 pounds per hand. That kind of grip strength will make it impossible for a guy to get out of close range situations.

d: his chances of being competitive will come down to his ability to cut weight. I bet he goes down to around 290 and cuts 25 pounds to make 265.

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I don't know if you guys have seen a strongman in person, but it's a different kind of strength. It's really insane.
Yeah, it's a freakish level of core strength combined with muscle endurance, it's nuts.

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Their grip strength alone in MMA will be huge.
That's a legitimate element to consider. Most people, MMA guys included, who train grip, train their forearms. These guys do true grip training, crush grip training and pinch grip training.

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You'll be afraid to throw jabs because if he catches your arm, and knows even one thing to do from there, you're in a bad way.
I get what you're saying, but I don't think anyone would come to the point of being "afraid." You'd have to be Mr. Miyagi catching flies with chopsticks to grab someones punch, right out the air.

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Their core is also unbelievable, taking someone like this guy down will not be an easy task. And Lesnar couldn't even take Couture down.
Couture is also "EXCEPTIONAL" at Roman Greco, it wasn't Couture's superior core strength that kept him out of trouble.

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And they're not slow. Strongmen competitions have a decent amount of speed-orientated tasks. Plus events like rock lift and log drags will translate well to wrestling throws.
I hear what you're saying, and i appreciate strongmen comps, too, but the stones and log drags more so translates an ability to Ultimate Warrior press someone over their head, but not so much an explosive TD, or timing, leverage awareness or technique.

For the most part, I do agree Mariusz has all the potential in the world based on the abilities he possesses as a strongman

I would love to the icon of strongman turn fighter
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To answer the question posed on the thread title. In my opinion, theoretically yes, but I don't think Mariusz has the time needed to catch up skill & experience wise. I don't mean Mariusz can't catch up to Brock's "MMA" skills or experience, but his long established wrestling skills and competition experience. Theoretically, yes, realistically, Mariusz is definitely beast enough, but I don't see it happening.

Mariusz would definitely beat Lesnar. This guy is massively fast, and could literally be twice as strong as Lesnar. Maybe even more than twice as strong. Brock would have to bench 400+lbs, deadlift 500+lbs, etc to even be half as strong. Lesnar won't be able to push his weight down on him, he won't be able to hold his arm out (Mir II), he won't be able to ride him (Herring).


Lesnar couldn't keep Randy down, he won't be keeping this guy down. The core and leg strength of these strongmen is unshakeable. And this guy is known for his speed. A glass chin is all we could hope for, and Lesnar isn't exactly a good striker. I know I'm a Brock hater, but Mariusz is one the best athletes on this planet, and if he can cut to 265 he will be a force.


edit: Strongman DEFINITELY trains explosiveness and endurance. Maybe even more so than wrestling.

In interviews he seems like a nice respective but competitive guy, so MMA guys should really appreciate him instead of disliking him. He's been a world class athlete for years and has chosen our sport, it will be exciting to see this kind of guy transfer over.

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