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a: he has combat experience, used to be a kickboxer long ago. I remember reading that he quit because he didn't like getting hit in the head. It won't take long for him to get as good as Lesnar
Won't argue there, I never said Lesnar was the white Mohammed Ali.

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standing or on the ground, wrestling is another story
"on the ground.." and "wrestling..."

One in the same in my opinion. If you neutralize BJJ with wrestling, it's ground game. If you can control your opponent on the ground, it's ground game, so how you differentiate the two may be an opinion of philosophy.


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b: if he continues to take legal supplements that mimic hgh and anabolic steroids he will be able to compete probably until around 43 or 44, that's if he's really dedicated to the sport
This is another discussion with too many mediating variables to get into, but the UFC tests, so maybe he could pull that off overseas.

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c: whoever mentioned his gifts in grip strength is 100% correct, these guys do farmers carries with weights in excess of 300 pounds per hand. That kind of grip strength will make it impossible for a guy to get out of close range situations.
Preaching to the choir I do true grip training myself, including modified farmers walks.

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d: his chances of being competitive will come down to his ability to cut weight. I bet he goes down to around 290 and cuts 25 pounds to make 265.
Hope you're right, I'd love to see Mariusz fight
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Worlds strongest man? Theres no such thing, I hate it when people put this label on a person, it has no meaning. What is he the strongest at? lifting barrels and sand bags in a race against other roid heads? Lets get him off the juice, in the octagon so we can see how "strong" his chin is.
They call him that because he has won like 5 of the last 6 World Strongest Man tournaments, they always show it on ESPN, that is how i know who he is. He broke the Record for the most championships and consecutive championships. So he really is the worlds strongest man. That being said it doesnt mean he's a good fighter.
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Mariusz would definitely beat Lesnar. This guy is massively fast, and could literally be twice as strong as Lesnar. Maybe even more than twice as strong. Brock would have to bench 400+lbs, deadlift 500+lbs, etc to even be half as strong. Lesnar won't be able to push his weight down on him, he won't be able to hold his arm out (Mir II), he won't be able to ride him (Herring).
I would have liked to have a respectable argument with you until you used "definitely." You are 100% sure how? I don't think Mariusz would say he's 100% certain.

Your dead lifts and bench have less to do with MMA then you might want to believe. Tank Abbot had 600lbs bench press, as evidenced here:



A LOT OF GOOD THAT BENCH DID HIM.

Deadlifts are a measure of strength, not so much power, throwing strikes, avoiding TD's and executing a TD is primarily power based.

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Lesnar couldn't keep Randy down, he won't be keeping this guy down. The core and leg strength of these strongmen is unshakeable. And this guy is known for his speed. A glass chin is all we could hope for
Got-damn, you're preaching to the choir again. I rooted for Mariusz when he went up against Kevin Nee, even though Kevin is a good ole boy from the U.S.

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, and Lesnar isn't exactly a good striker.
Don't make me quote myself...

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I know I'm a Brock hater, but Mariusz is one the best athletes on this planet, and if he can cut to 265 he will be a force.
AGREED!! GEEZUZ, who am I arguing with?


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edit: Strongman DEFINITELY trains explosiveness and endurance. Maybe even more so than wrestling.
I'm not touching this one.

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In interviews he seems like a nice respective but competitive guy, so MMA guys should really appreciate him instead of disliking him. He's been a world class athlete for years and has chosen our sport, it will be exciting to see this kind of guy transfer over.
Yes. If it were any other strongman, I'd be less inclined to defend his abilities, but Mariusz is an exceptional freak both strength, endurance and even athletic wise.

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Brock only wins because of his size.

He wouldn't stand a chance against this guy even though he is by far a much better wrestler.

EDIT: There is sarcasm in this post.

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This is another discussion with too many mediating variables to get into, but the UFC tests, so maybe he could pull that off overseas.
basically, if he keeps to supplements that are legal that mimic the effects the two main illegal ones do (hgh and steroids) he will be ok. The fact of the matter is to keep his body at the level it is he absolutely has to be taking some soft of chemical into his body that keeps the muscle on.
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Speaking of Kevin Nee vs Mariusz Pudzianowski. Keep in mind, Kevin is one of our best.



and Mariusz is nothing but class.
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Let's just see how he does in his first fight. I'm sure Mariusz isn't planning on fighting Brock anytime soon.. if at all.
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Let's just see how he does in his first fight. I'm sure Mariusz isn't planning on fighting Brock anytime soon.. if at all.
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Brock only wins because of his size.

He wouldn't stand a chance against this guy even though he is by far a much better wrestler.
If you honestly believe this you need to explain to me why Royce Gracie and not Teila Tuli won UFC 1.




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If you honestly believe this you need to explain to me why Royce Gracie and not Teila Tuli won UFC 1.
Does this in your post not mean sarcasm anymore ?

Apologies sir, I will go make changes to my post now.
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