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Old 12-14-2006, 07:46 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I don't think so. Be realistic and objective about this. Diego hasn't beaten anyone that good. He is the best of the 2nd tier WW fighters in the UFC. That's all the credit I can give him. You know the UFC is just padding his record. If the guy is so good, why isn't he on ppv cards more often? They are hyping him up so much, but once he fights Hughes, Penn or GSP, he will get knocked lights out and face the nightmare.
He's top 5 in WW in the world. Only people better is the current champion and the former two champions (GSP, BJ and Hughes). His next fight is against one of these guys and then we'll see the what's up. Say what you want but Diego is an A level fighter. It just so happens that he is competing in the deepest division in MMA. I agree with him fighting Hughes next.

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Old 12-14-2006, 09:38 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I'm not sure what's so hard to understand here? Diego doesn't get a title shot because he's not the number 1 contender! Plain and simple. Hughes is. Hughes already has his rematch set up.

Until then, it's common knowledge the top 3 WW are GSP, Hughes, and BJ. Diego has to beat Hughes or BJ to get to GSP. I know other people got stupid title shots (btw Riggs fought hughes because Karo was hurt right?) but in a division as stacked as WW, that's how it goes. You don't see the number 4 contender in anything getting title shots.

Yes some of us do not like Diego, some of us do. Either way, we can all agree he is not the number one contender, even though Joe Rogan said he's at the top of the division, which is ridiculous.

And let's stop saying he's 19-0 and like he beat 19 people in the UFC. Wasn't there controversy about his record and he had to constantly restate it during Tuf 1 over and over?

In conclusion, guess I have to check Riggs off of my list. Don't know what happened to him, but he has lost his focus. I'd be suprised if he even comes back.
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Old 12-14-2006, 09:52 AM   #23 (permalink)
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It's Joe Riggs, he's inconsistent. He really does fight in patterns. Riggs proved he was a middle of the road fighter last night. He has talent, but he can't rise to the occasion. He'll never be able to take that one huge step, and for that, he's forever banished to UFN dark fights.
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Old 12-14-2006, 10:16 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I'm not sure what's so hard to understand here? Diego doesn't get a title shot because he's not the number 1 contender! Plain and simple. Hughes is. Hughes already has his rematch set up.

Until then, it's common knowledge the top 3 WW are GSP, Hughes, and BJ. Diego has to beat Hughes or BJ to get to GSP. I know other people got stupid title shots (btw Riggs fought hughes because Karo was hurt right?) but in a division as stacked as WW, that's how it goes. You don't see the number 4 contender in anything getting title shots.

Yes some of us do not like Diego, some of us do. Either way, we can all agree he is not the number one contender, even though Joe Rogan said he's at the top of the division, which is ridiculous.

And let's stop saying he's 19-0 and like he beat 19 people in the UFC. Wasn't there controversy about his record and he had to constantly restate it during Tuf 1 over and over?

In conclusion, guess I have to check Riggs off of my list. Don't know what happened to him, but he has lost his focus. I'd be suprised if he even comes back.

Actually BJ (if it was left up to scores and averages) is below Diego. BJ is coming off of two straight loses to both GSP and Hughes..to put him in agian vs either would be moot and just be to gain ratings. Besides ...if rumor holds, BJ is shifting to the light weight division. He's already lined up to be a coach on TUF 5. All in all it will either work out that GSP vs Hughes....winner vs Diego...or Diego vs Hughes ...winner vs GSP. they are the top three.
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diego and penn are a good matchup.

they need to fight.
I agree, I think this would be a great fight.
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I love these kinds of posts. people come on saying someone doesn't deserve a title fight. They say their record doesn't mean shit because they fought cans or haven't fought anyone in the top 3 blah blah blah.


If these same idiots that post these things would look at all the MMA fighters records, they will see that a majority of fights are not against top ranked fighters. Diego's record is awesome. He has fought tough fights, yet some ignorant person comes along to try to put it down. Are all of GSP's fights against number 1 and 2 guys? Nope, but that doesn't say anything less of his record. Same goes for any other fighter in the world. You have to start somewhere. To say a fighter doesn't deserve a shot is so stupid. if they did not deserve the shot, they wouldn't get it.
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Old 12-14-2006, 11:47 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Uhh, Diego has actually had some good competition, Diaz, Karo, even Riggs (who also beat Nick Diaz). He hasen't had a list of top contenders, but Karo is the real deal man, and NO ONE who gets a title shot has to beat 3-4 top contenders in the division to get a title shot.

Besides, Diego does deserve it, there's not another WW right now that deserves a shot more than him. There is no arguing it, it's just the way it is.
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You actually think that Diego could not beat Frank Triggs?
Come on, Diego may not be the best MMA fighter out there and you may not like him personally but you can't deny that the boy has skills...period
Exactly. and Oasis, Trigg?! Is the first fight you've seen since 2004? Diego and Hughes is next. Diego clearly doesn't think hes ready for a title shot, even though his fans do... he's a perfectionist and he feels his game isn't perfect. However, to say he can't hang with these guys and is undeserving is ignorant.

This is probably the first time you've ever seen Diego fight and took a look at his haircut and said "i dun like him b/c he looks gay" which seems to be a characteristic of someone who's not as deep into mma as they think they are. Even if they decide to give him GSP after he annihalates Serra who the hell cares? Diego is clearly the top 4 in the WW division, I can watch these same 4 people fight for the next 5 yrs.

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Old 12-14-2006, 12:30 PM   #29 (permalink)
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The guy who started this thread is prob. a Riggs Nuthugger and just pissed off his boy lost and wanted to make up some bs about sanches. Sanches is the real deal he deserves a title shot.
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I'm just saying Diego needs to fight Penn or Hughes.

GSP's record is less, but he beat BJ Penn, and had a close fight with Hughes... Diego has a better record, but not against Penn or Hughes, that's all I am saying. They are the top 3. Everybody has "tough" guys in their record but I'm pretty sure you can't argue that Diego has beaten tougher guys than Hughes or GSP (possibly even Penn.)

Penn beat Hughes, and Hughes beat Penn, so I'm pretty sure Penn gets a rubbermatch. Also, a rubbermatch is involved for GSP and Hughes.

You have the top 3 guys who have all fought each other, and all of which have had the belt. Is it really "ignorant" to say that for someone to get a title shot they should fight one of the three current/former champs? I don't see why that is such a ridiculous thought.

To say Diego gets GSP before Hughes, without beating Penn or fighting Hughes first doesn't make sense. For Diego to fight GSP before fighting Penn when penn should be up for a rematch given their fight was so close.

Since Hughes vs. GSP is already set, I'm pretty sure if Penn wins from now until then, he will be next for GSP shot, unless in between then Diego fights Hughes or Penn and wins.

I really think he needs to beat one of those two to be the next challenger.
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