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09-18-2009, 03:27 AM
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Middleweight
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Best fighter not in the UFC
Who do you think are the best fighters per division that are not in the UFC?
HW Fedor
LHW Mousasi
MW Filho
WW Sheilds
LW Josh Thompson
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09-18-2009, 03:39 AM
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Super Heavyweight
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Location: Toronto
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u pretty much nailed it...but fighter i see making this list...bret rogers and king mo now proven but has tons of potential. As for rogers might be garbage but he is has a win against Andrei Arlovski which should let him crack the top 10 of hw. His first lost will be to fedor who is hands down the best hw in the world.
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09-18-2009, 04:11 AM
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KO artist
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This is one of those threads that ends right with the first post  , like marc said u pretty much nailed it. Though MW it might be nice to see Manhoef too, Filho had looked pretty bad lately and I'm not sure he can hang with elite wrestlers. And I'd actually give Manhoef a big chance with Silva since it'd pretty much be a standup war and Manhoef is almost as deadly standing up as Silva. Yes I'm aware Filho subbed Manhoef, but style wise Manhoef/Silva would be a much more interesting fight.
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09-18-2009, 04:16 AM
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Super Heavyweight
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Liddellianenko
This is one of those threads that ends right with the first post  , like marc said u pretty much nailed it. Though MW it might be nice to see Manhoef too, Filho had looked pretty bad lately and I'm not sure he can hang with elite wrestlers. And I'd actually give Manhoef a big chance with Silva since it'd pretty much be a standup war and Manhoef is almost as deadly standing up as Silva. Yes I'm aware Filho subbed Manhoef, but style wise Manhoef/Silva would be a much more interesting fight.
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Melvin Manhoef is decent in my books, he does create a good match up for anderson but there worlds apart and likely will never fight.
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09-18-2009, 05:26 AM
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Flyweight
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The more I watch Manhoef, the more I think Silva would decimate him. Don't get me wrong at all, Melvin is awesome, but hes a technical brawler with serious power. He leaves him self open for counters. His TDD and ground game are very poor.
He has a bad habit, of never moving backwards. Now for an aggressive fighter this is great. But when you're fighting a guy like Anderson. You want lateral movement and not to just wild engages. You have to create your openings. Manhoef will not do that. He comes forward guns blazing. His cardio has always been a bit of a question mark as well.
The other fighters who share the same philosophy as Manhoef, (though I must admit not to the same extent he does) are. Griffin/Leben/Irvin and Rich Franklin and Hendo (to a lesser degree) All of them got dealt with very quickly. I see Manhoef vs Silva being probably one of the best examples of counter-striking you're ever likely to see.
All that said, I do love watching Manhoef and I really respect his attitude and reason for why he fights. He's a sick dude!
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09-18-2009, 05:37 AM
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Bantamweight
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Mousasi, Aoki, Fedor. We could go on forever but I believe Mousasi is the the most promisiing fighter not currently in the UFC.
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09-18-2009, 06:51 AM
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Flyweight
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Nick Diaz!!!!
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09-18-2009, 07:18 AM
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Featherweight
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Fedor and Mousasi are two of the best fighters in the world..
Sadly enough though they aren't in the UFC  But there have been rumers of Dana White reaching out to Mousasi and we all know the saga with Fedor and the UFC..
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09-18-2009, 11:13 AM
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KO artist
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Location: Iowa
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Originally Posted by FredFish1
The more I watch Manhoef, the more I think Silva would decimate him. Don't get me wrong at all, Melvin is awesome, but hes a technical brawler with serious power. He leaves him self open for counters. His TDD and ground game are very poor.
He has a bad habit, of never moving backwards. Now for an aggressive fighter this is great. But when you're fighting a guy like Anderson. You want lateral movement and not to just wild engages. You have to create your openings. Manhoef will not do that. He comes forward guns blazing. His cardio has always been a bit of a question mark as well.
The other fighters who share the same philosophy as Manhoef, (though I must admit not to the same extent he does) are. Griffin/Leben/Irvin and Rich Franklin and Hendo (to a lesser degree) All of them got dealt with very quickly. I see Manhoef vs Silva being probably one of the best examples of counter-striking you're ever likely to see.
All that said, I do love watching Manhoef and I really respect his attitude and reason for why he fights. He's a sick dude!
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You're probably right, wild aggressive brawler meets master of counterstriking probably means goodnight brawler.
At the same time, none of those other guys you mentioned really reflect on what would happen to Manhoef. Those guys were so freakin SLOW, it was painful to watch them try to stand with Silva. Griffin with his slow overrated brawling lacking any power, Hendo with his see it coming from a mile away overhand right, Leben with his chin up run forward windmilling, and Irvin just being a B-level fighter to begin with.
Manhoef is FAST, really fast. Silva has been able to dodge and counter effortlessly against slow lumbering trucks... I'd like to see him pull that Matrix dodge shit against the whirlwind blur of Manhoef. Silva would still probably take it, but It'd be a fun fight for sure.
Doesn't really matter though I guess; even if the UFC managed to sign Manhoef, Silva would probably retire way before Manhoef climbed the ladder.
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09-18-2009, 12:00 PM
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Amatuer
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FEDOR & GEGARD MOUSASI..enough said
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