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Old 09-21-2009, 04:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Back of the head punches

In the Kos/Trigg(3:45 of first round), and Belfort/Franklin(2:03 of first round) fights, both fighters were knocked out of their equilibrium with blows to the back of the head. Also in the CroCop/Dos Santos(3:06 in third round) fight, it looks like CroCop might have been clipped in the back of the head, but I'm not too sure it hit him.

I don't know if fighters are training to do this or not, or it's just coincidence, but it seems to be occurring A LOT lately in MMA. There are countless other fights that this has happened in as well.

I know there are a lot of DIRTY techniques in boxing used to cheat the rules(ex. uppercut followed by an elbow, which is illegal, but so hard to catch because the movements were very quick).

There is a possible chance that yea.. fighters are training to punch the guy in the back of the head but make it look like a regular hook. Not saying this is the case, but it's just a thought that should be looked into.

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Old 09-21-2009, 04:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The back of the head is just that strip that extands from the spine... it's really not that big an area.

Unless you have the Ham Hands of Lesnar...
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The back of the head is just that strip that extands from the spine... it's really not that big an area.

Unless you have the Ham Hands of Lesnar...
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Old 09-21-2009, 05:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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To me it seems like if the guy getting hit is standing then they never say anything about it. But if your on the ground and hit any where near the back of the head they constantly say to "watch the back of the head".
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Old 09-21-2009, 05:54 PM   #5 (permalink)
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To me it seems like if the guy getting hit is standing then they never say anything about it. But if your on the ground and hit any where near the back of the head they constantly say to "watch the back of the head".
That's because when a fight is standing it's fluid, it's in motion, when you throw a punch and the guy moves his head to get out of the way and you clip him in the back of his head, he moved to the wrong spot. So, it's perfectly legal to hit in the back of the head when the fight is standing, as you can never say where it's going to hit.

On the ground, however, you have control of where you hit the guy, so when you hit him in the back of the head, it's against the rules, as you can prevent from doing so.

As far as fighters training to hit in the back of the head, that would be quite difficult seeing as how fighters move their heads to avoid strikes based on the angle, and you can't really train to hit the back of the head when you don't know which angle he's going to move.

Besides, it has always happened in MMA, and it'll always happen, that's part of having someone throw punches at your face and you trying to avoid them.
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Seems to me the refs are quick to call it in a GnP situation where a fighter has control of the fight. However, and I have noticed this a lot more in the last few events, they don't seem to say anything about it at all if there are shots to the back of the head in the final flurry to end the fight right before the stoppage. The only time I have EVER seen a ref stop it or take a point in that situation was when Mazzagati stopped Lesnar and deducted the point when that fight was all but over, and I think Mazz was biased because Lesnar was new to the sport.

Good post, was just talking about this the other day with a friend.
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Seems to me the refs are quick to call it in a GnP situation where a fighter has control of the fight. However, and I have noticed this a lot more in the last few events, they don't seem to say anything about it at all if there are shots to the back of the head in the final flurry to end the fight right before the stoppage. The only time I have EVER seen a ref stop it or take a point in that situation was when Mazzagati stopped Lesnar and deducted the point when that fight was all but over, and I think Mazz was biased because Lesnar was new to the sport.

Good post, was just talking about this the other day with a friend.
To be fair Lesnar was just about to get armbarred when Mazzagati stood them up. It infact hurt Mir more than Lesnar like Mir said on the ufc 100 countdown.
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it doesnt seem to intentional, but i have some GnP fights where they would keep hitting the guy in the back of the head even after the ref repeating to stop.
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You know what annoys me? When a fighter on the ground intentionally turns his head (back of the head) towards the direction of the punch. It's like they know that they cant get hit in the back of the head so they use that as a tactic. I've noticed that happens alot when an opponent has their back.
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You know what annoys me? When a fighter on the ground intentionally turns his head (back of the head) towards the direction of the punch. It's like they know that they cant get hit in the back of the head so they use that as a tactic. I've noticed that happens alot when an opponent has their back.
i noticed that too what a bitch tactic
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