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post #11 of 23 (permalink) Old 09-22-2009, 02:40 PM
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Boo on all these choices. They may gift it to Randy, or maybe even Ortiz if he wins, but neither really deserves it. I think all they can do keep an eye on the next couple events and see if anyone stands out. I do like the idea of Hendo moving up and making a run.
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if machida wins they should just do machida rampage in march and drop evans vs rampage. come march and we have all lost interrest in the evans rampage fight

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Originally Posted by Brainshank View Post
Boo on all these choices. They may gift it to Randy, or maybe even Ortiz if he wins, but neither really deserves it. I think all they can do keep an eye on the next couple events and see if anyone stands out. I do like the idea of Hendo moving up and making a run.
Exactly. That was the point I was making. Machida is pretty much going to be sitting in wait unless they just give someone a shot who really isn't quite there yet, much like they did Shogun... or much like I think they will Couture or Vera. Machida is actually very marketable, the way they show him is like something out of a VanDamm movie from the 80s... the UFC would be foolish not to throw some competition his way, no matter how far out they really should be from a shot.
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I actually think this is a pretty good idea. Neither of them really deserve a title shot but with the way the LHW division is going lately with no fighters really tearing through the division title shots are going to have to go to winners of fights like this.

I think Vera deserves a shot alot more than Couture just cause he is atleast coming off 2 wins in the division where couture has lost his last 2 fights and lost his last fight at LHW to, but UFC likes to give Couture big fights which I dont disagree with cause he is a big draw.

I think vera poses a different match up for Machida, his Muay Thai is good and he has a good reach advantage, either way I cant see him winning but he might put up a good fight. I really think he is going to beat Randy so I bet after he does that we will see alot more believers in him
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I really think he [Vera] is going to beat Randy so I bet after he does that we will see alot more believers in him
Yea I think Vera is going to beat Randy too. LHW Randy has to deal with alot more speed then HW Randy. Since Randy came back to win the belt from Sylvia, he has yet to face someone who makes use of the leg chop stick and move gameplan and I think it will prove to be Randy's kryptonite. That and the fact that Randy doesn't need to be in the clinch with Vera.

I think that when/if Vera gets this win, it can easily be accepted that he deserves a shot at the title. This actually makes complete sense to me now that I've thought about it. If Vera destroys Couture then of course he will get a title fight.

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I wouldnt mind seeing Vera get the shot if he wins. Not that he has really earned it, but i think his stand up is kind of unorthadox and would be a good match up for machida. Also, Vera is a very patient fighter and i dont see him getting sucked into lyoto's game. All other possible contenders are kind of tied up at the moment.
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Little Nog if Shogun wins

Vera just no. if you say jon jones hasn't beat a top competitior, well who has vera beaten?

Anderson again if Shogun wins

Couture hasn't had a lhw bout since 2006

i'd say winner of Cane Nog is much more likely
Cane is on a 3 fight win streak, with 1 dq loss in the UFC.
Little Nog obviously has a better chance at getting it than Couture/Vera.
The guy is saying the winner of the fight so if to answer your question of wo the hell has vera beaten the answer would be Couture. As far as the winner of Cane/Nog I do actually like that idea but i would not be opposed to the winner of Vera/Couture simply because the ufc is low on options and Machida (assuming he wins) shouldn have to sit around. If Shogun wins these problems are solved because Anderson will come up and kick his ass. Either way I see Machida being champion for awhile which means Thiago Silva is nowhere near a title shot, Anderson wont fight for the title... Rampage really screwed up because if he had beaten Rashad in Dec. he would have easily been deserving after KOing Wand, beating Jardine, and then beating Rashad. Rashad should be nowhere near a second shot at Machida. He needs at least 3 wins imo for that match to draw any interest because it wasn a close fight the first time so if Machida beats Shogun the ufc is gonna be secretly praying for Rampage to win because he hasn had the pleasure of getting his butt beat by Machida yet.

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doesnt lil nog train with machida since i kno big nog does i think ill b safe for me to asume that lil nog does 2
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post #19 of 23 (permalink) Old 09-22-2009, 06:56 PM
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Couture v. Vera should be called, " Has been v. Never was" I've got mad props for Randy but Vera is a joke, I get so tired of hearing him proclaim to the world how good he is, yet in the ring he SUCKS. All he is is TALK. If he were half as good as he thinks he was he would really be something.
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post #20 of 23 (permalink) Old 09-22-2009, 07:04 PM
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I think it IS possible that Randy could receive a title shot IF he was to perform abnormally well against Vera. I am a huge Couture fan and to see him get a shot for the LHW belt would be pretty cool.

In the end, you bring up an interesting point. All we can do is wait and see...
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