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Old 10-13-2009, 09:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Analysis of Chuck Liddell's Getting Up?

I've read that Couture studied Liddell technique for standing up after being taken down before his fight with Brock. Randy did get up after being taken down by Brock.

Has anyone ever really studied the technique of Liddell on this? I don't have any of his fights on hand (I'm pretty bushed here), but if I had to remember I'd guess the following:

- taken down
- legs move together, knees up, sits up straight (takes punches to torso or head here)
- turns on side
- holds one hand of opponent as he gets to knee
- gets to feet usually while trying to stop opponent from taking his back (possibly still holding arm)
- takes shots to side of head
- breaks free as if in clinch

Would love to know if Carwin is studying this stuff...
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Old 10-13-2009, 10:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well Liddell was a highly decorated wrestler back in college so is he pretty much uses his wrestling to avoid being wrestled/taken down, basically using it in reverse. Aside from that his ability to immediately stand right back up after being taken down is probably one of those God given talents every person/fighter has, nobody does it like him.
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Old 10-13-2009, 10:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Seems like Chuck can always get back to his feet...except after getting brutally KO'd of course
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Old 10-14-2009, 12:27 AM   #4 (permalink)
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In a couple of his fights when hes gotten up out of being mounted I think
his technique is like this:

Kicks off one of his feet to throw opponent off balance.

Pushes his knuckles into opponents hips and lower torso

Doesn't clinch; shrimps as he tucks his knees together

Pushes off opponent's body with hands, gets a foot underneath him

Stands up while counter-striking lightly




The bolded part is what makes the difference I think. He's great at exploding his knuckles into their torso and hips, forcing them to shift their weight. Some fighters are hesitant to do this important step while shrimping, they think it makes them more vulnerable. Typically though someone will be trying too hard to keep you in mount to take advantage of it.

Lidell knew he had an iron chin and wasn't worried about taking a few little hits to get back up. I doubt that Carwin doesn't know how to get out of Lesnar's mount; Herring got out of Lesnar's mount quite a few times. Hopefully Shane won't let his guard down immediately after he's up though.
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In one of his seminar videos on mmajacked a long time ago he showed how he escapes from open guard.

It looked very simple but thats prob because he was doing it and not me lol but here is what he dose.

First he gets a underhook with his left arm then he twists his torso to the right as that shifts his opponent to the side he sits up gets his right hand behind his back and uses it to scoot or just stand up.

He does have a few videos you can find on Google but I cant seem to find the specific one Im talking about, He did say that this was the most effective way he's found to get out of bottom position.
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I remember Chuck saying in an interview once that it was basically a trade off, between getting to your feet and taking a shot or two. He said that not many fighters were willing to take those shots in order to get the fight on their feet, but he was.

I suppose it matters what kind of fighter you are. If you're a stand up guy with a decent chin, then it makes good sense.
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Might not be smart for Carwin to do this with Brock, a few arm punches from Brock, is still a big deal. I'd be more interested in watching how nog gets the reversal from the bottom.

Or **** it, cover yourself in grease.
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Might not be smart for Carwin to do this with Brock, a few arm punches from Brock, is still a big deal. I'd be more interested in watching how nog gets the reversal from the bottom.

Or **** it, cover yourself in grease.
Just drink olive oil before the fight so you sweat it out. Can't test for that.
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I'm surprised more fighters don't try to figure out Chuck's method as it's proven to be hugely effective. On the other hand I'm just as surprised that nobody ever figured out a way to stop him from doing it.
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Im guessing it's easier to stand back up when you are fighting at 205 and below.

Having a 300 pound beast on top of you like brock would be more challenging, which is why mir was able to do nothing at all but lay there helpless.

Also cardio comes into play, bigger men are slower and need more oxygen.
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