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post #11 of 36 (permalink) Old 10-19-2009, 03:30 AM
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I can't believe people are suggesting that anyone is superior to Anderson Silva. Mousasi may be a better boxer but what people forget is that A.Silva knows better than anyone in the LHW division to employ his Muay Thai skills. Mousasi would be tooled--hell, Machida could tool Mousasi and even I know Machida isn't on A.Silva's level (even though I am a Machida nuthugger).
This post seems sort of "mainstream." There's solid evidence that Silva is ducking Machida. And to say anyone would tool Mousasi seems ignorant, especially if it was "even" Machida - possibly the greatest fighter to ever grace the 205 class. Machida not being on A Silva's level is sort of crazy too, especially since Silva's most impressive victories came against Rich Franklin - someone that Machida destroyed thoroughly in just his fifth MMA bout.

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This. Anyone can outbox A boxer. Heck, I outboxed Glass Joe just this morning . Doesn't mean that Anderson could hang with Boxing legends like Roy Jones Jr. in their own element. Silva's primary weapon in the cage has been his Muay Thai clinch/knees and kicks. I doubt he's as hot against other elite punchers without those elements of his game.

This.

RJJ is a punching MACHINE, his speed and skills are legendary and inhuman. Clearly he'd be dominated against Silva in an MMA match as his stance isn't designed to battle kicks and elbows. But in a boxing match, we'll see Silva get humiliated as bad as Forrest got humiliated against Silva.
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In terms of what they have achieved, Machida is no where near being on Silvas level.
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RJJ tools Silva in a boxing match.

I wouldn't mind seeing it though.
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In terms of what they have achieved, Machida is no where near being on Silvas level.
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In terms of what they have achieved, Machida is no where near being on Silvas level.
Tough to call. In the early years of Silva's career, he was 3-2. In the same early years of Machida's career, he had devastated two UFC champions and beat Bonnar way more convincingly than Forrest could. By the time Machida was champion, he had black belts in BJJ and Shotokan Karate, was a top-tier sumo wrestler, was 15-0, had never lost a round, and had easily KO'd two undefeated top 10 fighters.


Statistically gets hit less than Silva and lands about the same percentage or more per fight.

Machida is already a legend and is already at an early part of his MMA career, his career could easily end up eclipsing Silva's and his dominance, to date, rivals The Spider's.


If Spider's legacy in the UFC is beating big names, he's beaten Forrest, Henderson, Marquardt, Franklin, and Leben.

In which case, Lyoto has beaten Penn (at 190lbs), Franklin, Ortiz, Thiago Silva, Rashad, Soukoudjou, and Bonnar.

Pretty close names and after he beats Shogun his legacy will be even more cemented.
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Tough to call. In the early years of Silva's career, he was 3-2. In the same early years of Machida's career, he had devastated two UFC champions and beat Bonnar way more convincingly than Forrest could. By the time Machida was champion, he had black belts in BJJ and Shotokan Karate, was a top-tier sumo wrestler, was 15-0, had never lost a round, and had easily KO'd two undefeated top 10 fighters.


Statistically gets hit less than Silva and lands about the same percentage or more per fight.

Machida is already a legend and is already at an early part of his MMA career, his career could easily end up eclipsing Silva's and his dominance, to date, rivals The Spider's.


If Spider's legacy in the UFC is beating big names, he's beaten Forrest, Henderson, Marquardt, Franklin, and Leben.

In which case, Lyoto has beaten Penn (at 190lbs), Franklin, Ortiz, Thiago Silva, Rashad, Soukoudjou, and Bonnar.

Pretty close names and after he beats Shogun his legacy will be even more cemented.
I agree with a lot of what you are saying, but Silva's absolute dominance of his division is what puts him ahead of Machida. If Machida can run through the next five title contenders (which is possble) then i will have no problem putting him up there with Silva, Fedor, and GSP.
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So Anderson is training boxing with Freddie Roach......that worked well for Andrei Arlovski, and before you say Andrei has a glass jaw, the fundamental rule in boxing is protect your face, this is something that roach should have fixed.....

This footage doesn't impress me as we dont know the caliber of fighter he is in there with....
To be honest I wasn't that impressed either it was the title of the article on MiddleEasy.com and I couldn't be bothered to type so I copied and pasted it all. I would have to find out how good the boxer he was in there with before I make any judgements.

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This post seems sort of "mainstream." There's solid evidence that Silva is ducking Machida.
And what "solid" evidence would that be?
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Freddie Roach didn't tell Arlovski to throw that stupid knee. From what I remember, Arlovski was winning the fight up untill that.


I agree with you freddie didnt tell him to throw that stupid flying knee, and he also didnt tell him to protect his jaw the entire fight, either against Fedor or Rogers.......what was your point???
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In terms of what they have achieved, Machida is no where near being on Silvas level.

Really, read this and compare their fights or stats in the UFC:

http://www.mmaforum.com/ufc/64109-bl...vs-shogun.html

You will see you are wrong.....
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I agree with you freddie didnt tell him to throw that stupid flying knee, and he also didnt tell him to protect his jaw the entire fight, either against Fedor or Rogers.......what was your point???
well im just saying the only reason he got knocked out was because he got overconfident and threw that knee, he was overwhelming fedor up untill that point from what i remember.
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