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Old 10-19-2009, 09:44 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Silva (before the interview that JUST came out) was the only one saying he wouldn't fight Machida. Before that we knew this:

-Machida had fought his own brother, and infact left him with a scar on his face.

-Other fighters from their camp have fought eachother before, and IIRC Machida hasn't been in that camp for too long

-Machida said he was willing to defend against "anyone" if he ever got the belt, pre-UFC98.

-There were rumors of an interview wherein Silva said if he fought Machida, he would "get frustrated" and lose like most strikers Machida has faced.

-Machida never implied once he was not willing to fight Silva.

None of this is relevant though, I was wrong in thinking Silva was ducking Machida. Although I think Machida would win that fight, the interview that just came out has Machida saying they're close friends and would not fight for "5 million dollars." Camaraderie
Well I'm glad to read that you revised your opinion after that interview.

I think one of the reasons why you were led to believe that only AS refused to fight Lyoto (and not the other way around) is because Machida was never explicitly asked whether he'd fight AS or not, until recently.

BTW I too think Machida would beat AS. I don't know who would win on the feet but imo Machida could TD Silva, control him on the ground and win a UD.
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:50 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I'm one of the last people that would try to take anything away from what Machida has already achieved, but this thread is full of lose.

To make the implication that Machida has achieved anything near what Anderson has in MMA yet is just ridiculous. MMA fans have a tendency to forget everything but a fighter's last fight; which simply doesn't work when comparing achievements.

Machida just won the title in his most recent fight and people are already comparing him to Silva who has recently broken the record for most consecutive wins in the UFC, it's obnoxious.

Someone also went on to state that they thought Anderson was ducking Lyoto, and then gave a list of points based on nothing more than unsupported speculation, and rumors which had no source.

Before we get ahead of ourselves, sit back and think about what you're trying to compare. Someone who just became champion in his last fight(has yet to defend the title), and someone who has been champion for years. He unified the Pride/UFC title and has beaten the majority of his opponents inside of two rounds. He also had a fight where he had 100% accuracy against another undefeated fighter.
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:09 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I agree.

I may think that Lyoto would defeat AS but it doesn't change the fact that AS has definitely accomplished more and is more proven than Machida at this point.
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Well I'm glad to read that you revised your opinion after that interview.

I think one of the reasons why you were led to believe that only AS refused to fight Lyoto (and not the other way around) is because Machida was never explicitly asked whether he'd fight AS or not, until recently.

BTW I too think Machida would beat AS. I don't know who would win on the feet but imo Machida could TD Silva, control him on the ground and win a UD.
dan henderson couldnt control silva on the ground for an extended time... but you expect machida to do that for 5 rounds?? wow

btw ty for putting the anderson ducking machida thing to rest.... do you really think that monster fears anybody?? come on...
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Thing is Hendo was completely gassed by the 2nd round. He couldn't even TD Silva in the 2nd.

But I agree, a 5 rounder would make it tougher for Lyoto (or anyone else) to execute that kind of game plan.

Again I have no idea who would win the stand up, it could be AS just as it could be Machida. There's really no way of knowing until they actually fight, which will never happen.
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I certainly agree, although i'm not sure I would use the word overwhelming, he certainly had Fedor on his heels......

Many have said they believe that was simply Fedor drawing Andrei in....thats bullshit, you were seeing crisp striking and very good crisp striking at that by Andrei....

My issue was he wasnt doing anything else ven leg kicks, it was as if he went in looking for a boxing match and then out of no where decided Im a HW Uriah Faber and here comes a flying knee.......stupid!!!

However, had Fedor been exchanging, he could easily have landed on Andrei cuz Andrei never protects his chin.....it drives me crazy!!!!
yeah it drives me crazy also, so much wasted talent!

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Who was the trainer that was calling out Freddy Roach? Was it Greg Jackson?
no idea but the rivalry between him and floyd mayweather sr was hilarious.

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