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Old 10-19-2009, 10:22 PM   #21 (permalink)
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An uninjured Shogun is a scary Shogun, everyone forgets that. He has been lacklustre because of injuries, not because he lost his intensity.
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:52 PM   #22 (permalink)
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An uninjured Shogun is a scary Shogun, everyone forgets that. He has been lacklustre because of injuries, not because he lost his intensity.
I don't think anyone who knows what Shogun was like in 2006 would write him off because of his injuries. We are kind of worried if his cardio is totally back, but even having great cardio doesn't help against the Dragon. Just ask Tito Ortiz.

I think Shogun's a tough match for Machida because of his intensity. Though his style throws all caution into the wind, which isn't exactly good against Machida. There are things that you can't get away with against Lyoto like you could with other fighters. Look at the lazy jab Rashad threw at him near the end of round 1. Most other fighters would have simply avoided it but Lyoto punished him with a 3 punch combo.

Shogun, in the Liddell fight, shown us that he can still be intense but he can be patient too, which will pay off against Machida.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:44 PM   #23 (permalink)
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most people forget with shogun that he isn't fighting under pride rules anymore. the only way I can really see him winning is if the people at the nevada athletic council somehow allowed soccer kicks and stomps.
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EDIT: For the record vBookie lines never change, although i know your not talking about them....
Thats not completely true as when Cote fought Almedia the original line was him being a 2 to 1 favorite to win, when the odds on betting sites flipped and Cote became a 3 to 1 underdog MMA Forum actually followed suite, I know because I was pissed that I went all in when he was the favorite and didn't get the revised odds.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:55 PM   #25 (permalink)
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most people forget with shogun that he isn't fighting under pride rules anymore. the only way I can really see him winning is if the people at the nevada athletic council somehow allowed soccer kicks and stomps.
He KO'd Liddell and Overeem without PRIDE rules. Brutally.

I can't believe people are writing off Mauricio.

It's time for a new champion me thinks.
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Old 10-20-2009, 12:05 AM   #26 (permalink)
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He KO'd Liddell and Overeem without PRIDE rules. Brutally.

I can't believe people are writing off Mauricio.

It's time for a new champion me thinks.
Shogun is one bad mutha------- and no one should ever write him off. Crazier things have happened in this sport which is why I definitely don't want to see a quick KO (first punch) of either individual. I want to see a fight and have the dominating fighter win clearly without any fluke attached. That way, we can either say that Machida is the future Fedor of the LHW division or we can put this bandwagon to rest (we all know which result I am praying for).
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Old 10-20-2009, 12:41 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Machida's style really minimizes the risk of a gsp / serra mistake imo. He has intesne mental discipline too (going by his performance). He drinks pee - he seems like he really wants it bad, enough so to drink pee. I'm betting on Mach
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Thats not completely true as when Cote fought Almedia the original line was him being a 2 to 1 favorite to win, when the odds on betting sites flipped and Cote became a 3 to 1 underdog MMA Forum actually followed suite, I know because I was pissed that I went all in when he was the favorite and didn't get the revised odds.

I was just quoting Walker....
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:57 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I belive Machida can go undefeated in his UFC career
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