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Old 10-20-2009, 07:31 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Here in the Uk Machida is 1/4 to win.

I normally have an accumulator which helps with the odds. For 104 I'm having Machida, Stevenson, Johnson, Okami and Bader, which gives me odds of 3/1. I will put £100 on this which will hopefully win me back £300 plus my £100 stake. One or more may lose, but I'm willing to take the chance.
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:35 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Here in the Uk Machida is 1/4 to win.

I normally have an accumulator which helps with the odds. For 104 I'm having Machida, Stevenson, Johnson, Okami and Bader, which gives me odds of 3/1. I will put £100 on this which will hopefully win me back £300 plus my £100 stake. One or more may lose, but I'm willing to take the chance.
Stevenson is the only one I think you have to really worry about. Having the option of an accumulator really takes the bite off the points.

I'd go w/ Machida in an accumulator.

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Old 10-20-2009, 03:44 PM   #33 (permalink)
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My book's UFC 104 odds (click there) have Machida at -450 last I checked...at least a bit better value than some of the books.

I understand the fear bout picking him because of the LHW belt changing hands so many times but I think Machida is different.

Some people may say "But Evans was undefeated and look what happened to him."

But to those people I say...

1) Whom had Evans beaten? Washed up Liddell, flawed Forrest Griffin and Bisping in a questionable decision

2) Had Evans ever lost a round in the UFC? Of course.

Machida, meanwhile, has beaten Evans/T. Silva/Tito/Rich Franklin/even fat B.J. Penn, haha. He's also never lost a round in the UFC.

I think an aggressive fighter like Shogun will fall right into Machida's trap -- overextend himself and get caught with a counter strike.

I don't just think Machida will win; I think he'll become the first guy to knock out Shogun.

(I don't count Shogun's TKO loss to Mark Coleman -- that was a broken arm)
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:23 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Here in the Uk Machida is 1/4 to win.

I normally have an accumulator which helps with the odds. For 104 I'm having Machida, Stevenson, Johnson, Okami and Bader, which gives me odds of 3/1. I will put £100 on this which will hopefully win me back £300 plus my £100 stake. One or more may lose, but I'm willing to take the chance.
They look safe bets to me. Although it may seem like an upset I think Yoshida might beat Johnson though.
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Old 10-20-2009, 08:33 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I am not betting on Machida in this matchup a bet of 20 wins me 5 on my site seems pretty pointless, gonna throw a small bet on shogun cause I want him to win. Also betting on Johnson, Yushin and Pat Barry.
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