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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 12-17-2006, 12:04 PM Thread Starter
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Hey guys havent had a chance to post about this but I was busy with finals and work and training. Saw an article online about the tuf 5 try outs at hard rock and I was there so I thought Id post my expereince for you guys.

Bassically they made it clear that the best fighters werent going to get picked for the show it was going to be the ones they thought had the best personalities for the show which I thought was uber gay. It started off with a grappeling competition and supposedly if you did good you would advance to the secound round.

I saw this kid get tapped out within 30 secounds and he made it to the next round and the guy that submitted him didnt. I submitted this other guy and we both made it to the next round and the guy didnt know what the hell he was doing on the ground.

Then when we got to the striking portion I was laughing my ass off at some of the people they were letting advance because there striking skills were pathetic at best. This is where I got disqualified and im a bit disgruntle about it because two of the guys that made it past are from american top team and we spar all the time and I completly kick there ass and have to teach them things lol.

All in all it was a real wake up call for me because I got to see what the mma industry was really like. I always thought that if you were a good fighter and you were very skilled you would make it to the top off of sheer skill alone but today I was really depressed when I saw that marketing was more important then anything. I talked with Dana White for a few secounds after asking why I was cut because my grappeling and striking skills surpassed alot of the people that made it past me and he told me you dont have the personality for the big leagues ...
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post #2 of 37 (permalink) Old 12-17-2006, 12:33 PM
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Im Calling You On Some Serious Bullsh**!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your A Liar Making Some Crap Up. Show Me Some Pictures Do Something Cause I And Noone Else Will Believe You For A Second.
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Why Do So Many People Capatalize The First Letter In Every Word It Is Very Annoying And Makes Them Look Really Stupid, I Just Don't Understand Why Somebody Would Do This.

And Ya You Have To Remember You Were Trying Out For A Reality T.V. Show. So You Can't Really Blame Them For Going For Personality Above Skill, Its All About Entertainment.
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post #4 of 37 (permalink) Old 12-17-2006, 01:20 PM Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by warlogy
Why Do So Many People Capatalize The First Letter In Every Word It Is Very Annoying And Makes Them Look Really Stupid, I Just Don't Understand Why Somebody Would Do This.

And Ya You Have To Remember You Were Trying Out For A Reality T.V. Show. So You Can't Really Blame Them For Going For Personality Above Skill, Its All About Entertainment.
you know I can understand and appreciate that but they were losing alot of really good fighters because of this and the guys they were picking out werent anything special. I saw a grappler there that was amazing and he didnt make it because he had a speech impedement. I think thats riddiculous imo.

You know what rubbed me the wrong way was I asked these people in a nice way what I was missing. I told them look I know im no the best but can you tell me what I am missing so that I can work on it and become a better fighter. They told me I was a good well rounded fighter and I was probably better then most of the guys they were picking out but I needed to develop a persona.

Once I heard that I lost all respect for the UFC because alot of things started to make sense to me after hearing that statement. I guess thats one of the reasons why pride is so much better.

and to the other guy asking for pics etc ... Im not a freaking reporter I came in there with a gym bag and all I needed to try out. I was there to handle buisness not take pictures ...
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i realize you very well could be making this sh!t up, but i for one do believe you...

i've heard similar things from others, and honestly - it fits with the product i'm seeing...

don't get me wrong - the ufc has some great fighters, but some of them are lacking and sometimes the product takes on a WWE feel (not a good thing at all)...

and don't get me started on some of the tuf fighters... remember that tool from tuf 3 that got pummelled by starnes in the first fight??? my 7 year old daughter could have given him a run for his money on the ground lol
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Honestly, I really don't think Dana would've said "you dont have the personality for the big leagues". Though TUF 4 was boring, so maybe he was looking for some personalities...
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whats the other f stand for?

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First off mrmyz could be making this up, but I doubt it. I read some of his other posts and he didn't seem like he had some anti UFC agenda and was trying to make them look bad.

Honesty I have been pretty nieave about UFC and how they get talent as apposed to personality. I really believed that overall they wanted the best fighters, and if they had personality then that was a plus. Now it just seems they are getting a little crazy with this stuff, I know it is a reality show, but the people that watch it want good fights. I remember someone had a thread about an article they had on MMAweekly (I think it was MMAweekly anyway) about how the ratings are better when there is a suspected good fight, as apposed to drama BS like when whats his name got kicked off the show.

Recruiting people based so heavaliy on peronality just does not make sense to me. Sixteen year old girls are not watching the show or the sport, badass, hardnosed guys do. And these type of guys don't want to see drama, we want to seem good fights.

Dana should think about this. Would the people who watch MMA rather see a show with respectful fighters and not much to it other than the fight, but the fight is Fedor vs CroCop. Or would the guys rather see a show about Nick Diaz throwing a shoe at Danny Abbadi and them getting mad at each other, and then them fighting a shitty fight at the end. That might not of made too much sense, but I hope you get the point.

Not only do I think it is bullshit that Dana runs the try outs like he does, but I honestly do not think it is a good business move. That just pisses me off. I can't imagine how bad you must feel mrmyz, but if you kick enough ass maybe they can't help but give you a contract, or maybe you can even get to Pride if they stay afloat.

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dana white is a ******.
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post #10 of 37 (permalink) Old 12-17-2006, 06:30 PM Thread Starter
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you know im over it. I dont have an anti UFC agenda I will still watch the UFC because there are alot of great fighters out there Im a big fan of any one who can fight good for what ever reason. I just went on a little rant because when I posted this I just came home from my morning work out session and some one asked about it.

I was talking with some of the other fighters in the gym and one of my freinds left mma and focused on kick boxing and is anti ufc lol. He was going off on one of his rants about mma leagues and brought this up and I got dragged into the conversation.

It was just frustrating at the time because you drill the beleif into yourself that if you train hard enough you work hard and you keep pushing the hard work will pay off. It was kind of weird to know that hard work alone isnt enough. I was a bit naive before having the experience but I guess I learned a lesson.

I can understand where they are coming from because they have to put on a show and I dont think the average ufc fan really cares about the technical aspect of fighting. I guess for alot of us here on the forum we could probably watch a full hour of these guys training and see how they develop as fighters.

Like I would love to see tuf and instead of them showing all the house hold drama they show how they diagnose each others weaknesses and then try to illiminate them and how to improve there streghnths. I think that would be cool but most people arent going to want to watch a guy working on his sprawl for an hour lol.

I mean the show is great for fighters because just getting on the show is going to help you get your name out there. Look what it did for Forest Griffin. Im not a big fan of him or Bonnar but every one knows there names now and before no one even cared who the hell they were. Look at what it did for the Kendal Guy.

I came in there hoping for a short cut to the top and I guess it was my mistake for assuming there were short cuts. I still beleive that with hard work alone youll get some where in life but now I know some times you have to compliment the hard work with something else. Lesson learned.

Ive seen alot of you guys posting that the UFC is mirroring pro wrestling alot. I was always a wwf fan when I was little I loved Hogan and the Ultimate Warrior etc.. guess Ill just have to find an angle to work with lol.
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