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Old 10-23-2009, 04:07 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I said that the demand for this fight isnt that high right now. The Brock vs Penn comparison is just silly, i get that your trying to make a point but there is no reason to throw crazy, irrelovant things out there. Lyoto and Anderson both fight at lhw. Anderson has cleared out his division. Lyoto has not, my point was that if they both run out of people to fight and people (quite a few more then the people that make up these forums) really start to want this fight, i will be extremely disappointed in both of these guys. You should really read someones entire post before you criticize them.
I read your whole post. My post is still completely applicable when you take the second portion into account, the part about why it doesn't matter what the fans demand And the Brock vs BJ thing makes sense to me. There have been equally freaky matchups in the past, the question is why should the fans' demand override the fighters choices?
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Old 10-23-2009, 08:55 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I read your whole post. My post is still completely applicable when you take the second portion into account, the part about why it doesn't matter what the fans demand And the Brock vs BJ thing makes sense to me. There have been equally freaky matchups in the past, the question is why should the fans' demand override the fighters choices?
Because they aren't being asked to do anything unreasonable, all that is being asked is that they do their job the same way they always do.

Fans opinion obviously matters, how on earth did GSP-Penn II happen if not for fan demand? Because BJ earned it with his amazing 1-2 record (with 2 straight losses) at WW?
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Silva would get spanked by Machida anyway, so he prolly wouldn't take that fight anyway if they weren't team mates. So far his opponents at higher weight classes have been tailormade for him. He even wants to fight Mir at HW instead of one of the high caliber strikers or wrestlers, although I still see Mir beating him.

Not saying Silva is scared to fight Machida or anything because he isn't exactly the only person in ufc not fighting team mates, but one has to admit that he hasn't really fought a guy with high level wrestling & jitsu or atleast high caliber stand up on his trips to upper weight classes. Give Silva someone like Coleman, Rashad, Shogun, Randy, JDS, Kongo or Cane for example, because styles make fights and so far the opponents he has faced on higher weight class have been pretty much tailormade for him to beat.
At MW he does dominate, but if he plans to keep making those LHW or even HW trips I wanna see him against an opponent that actually causes him problems either with high level ground game or with hard chin and heavy hands.

Personally I wouldn't worry about it too much anyway, because Vitor's speed will soon give Silva a taste of what would happen if he actually got that fight vs. Roy Jones Jr. signed. Silva is fast and accurate, but Vitor's boxing and hand speed are on another level.
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:57 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I think he's afraid, I've never heard Lyoto say they wouldn't fight. The idea has been out there for a while and Anderson's been the only naysayer. I honestly think Anderson thinks he can't win in that fight.

Lyoto has def stated they arent going to fight....khoveki posted an inteview and he states he wont fight Anderson...


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your wrong Lyoto gives the notion that Anderson is like his brother so he wont fight him and i respect that, some fight out of heart and therefore it just wont be the same fighting there friends and family.
I think its bullshit and all these guys from Black House who wont fight one another are punks, what are you doing training your whole life just to sit behind a team mate cuz they have the belt....Its bullshit, plus Lyoto fought his own freakin brother in a Karate tornement and gave him a perminant facial scar....

So seeing that interview where he also now says he wont fight Anderson was a disappointment...

On the countsdown you hear Rua coach saying he won the open grand Prix but couldnt fight Wanderlei for the belt so its been his or he's been waiting 4 yrs......First off thats bullshit, he could have fought Wandy and lost, so he didnt need to wait four years. Hypothetially if he stepped to Wandy instead of the wole i wont fight my team mate thing he could have lost, so that would have been his chance come and gone. To me thats his decision and a ****in dumb one, but dont take a position of he's been deserving this since back then when he made the call to not fight Wandy.....

Fighters are called fighters why?? CUZ THEY FIGHT!!!!

Even on Tuf when that guy didnt want to fight his buddy and rashad was like well I can relate cuz of me and Jardine....I think that is bullshit too.....

Why do you dream of being the Ultimate Fighter just to stand in line behind someone else.....

Sorry for the rant....
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Because they aren't being asked to do anything unreasonable, all that is being asked is that they do their job the same way they always do.
It sounds unreasonable to me to ask someone to fight their great friend when the only thing that could come of it is an injury and a belt loss along with a flaw on your friend's awesome record.

You should be complaining more about Rashad/Jardine than this, since those two regularly fight in the same weight class for the same belt.

This just doesn't seem like such a big deal, although nothing does until someone brings it up on a forum
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Old 10-23-2009, 01:57 PM   #36 (permalink)
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It sounds unreasonable to me to ask someone to fight their great friend when the only thing that could come of it is an injury and a belt loss along with a flaw on your friend's awesome record.

You should be complaining more about Rashad/Jardine than this, since those two regularly fight in the same weight class for the same belt.

This just doesn't seem like such a big deal, although nothing does until someone brings it up on a forum

I understand your point and I think everyone does. The thing about it is these arent back yard fights. These guys are totally dedicated to the training for this sport in hopes to eventually wear the gold belt.

Tyson Griffin was asked if he would fight a team mate for the belt and his answer in the UFC post fight press conference said it an un written rule if its for the belt you fight a team mate if you have too......

KOS was there and he agreed....Point is I think these guys from Blackhouse should follow suit....

But I want alot of things I dont get....

What about the sponsers who sponser a guy who is like ranked #2 and his team mate is #1....they are hoping for more ex[posure if their fightwer was to win the belt, how do you think the sponsers react to being told well this would bring your brand alot more recognition but because Im friends with that guy i wont fight him and get that possible exposure!!!

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Old 10-23-2009, 07:36 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Anderson Silva first has to move up in the ranks of LHW to even be considered fighting for the belt. Okay, you beat Forrest but how about one or two more opponents? Like Rashad and maybe Shogun?

Maybe Anderson might get upset in one of these fights and that means the 'superfight' between him and Lyoto won't happen. :-)
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Old 10-23-2009, 07:48 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Anderson Silva first has to move up in the ranks of LHW to even be considered fighting for the belt. Okay, you beat Forrest but how about one or two more opponents? Like Rashad and maybe Shogun?

Maybe Anderson might get upset in one of these fights and that means the 'superfight' between him and Lyoto won't happen. :-)
He'd destroy Rashad Evans. Even on the ground, Silva would triangle the **** out of Evans. As far as Shogun, I think Silva would beat him too--I look at it this way, A.Silva is the Michael Jordan of both the MW and LHW divisions, while Machida is the Kobe Bryant. I am a fan of both (love Machida slightly more), which is why I don't want them to fight. Instead, they should team up and just face the entire LHW and MW divisions at once in one huge 2 vs. 50 matchup (with a special Octagon made for it).
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He'd destroy Rashad Evans. Even on the ground, Silva would triangle the **** out of Evans. As far as Shogun, I think Silva would beat him too--I look at it this way, A.Silva is the Michael Jordan of both the MW and LHW divisions, while Machida is the Kobe Bryant. I am a fan of both (love Machida slightly more), which is why I don't want them to fight. Instead, they should team up and just face the entire LHW and MW divisions at once in one huge 2 vs. 50 matchup (with a special Octagon made for it).
After they both destroy all the contenders in both divisions, the UFC staff and all the fans in the arena should throw roses at their feet and bow to Anderson and Lyoto.
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