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Old 10-26-2009, 12:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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MACHIDA REFLECTS ON CONTROVERSIAL UFC 104 WIN ( mmaweekly )

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LOS ANGELES – Lyoto Machida was glassy-eyed and somber at the post-fight press conference for UFC 104.

He had defended his light heavyweight belt – the first time in over two years a 205-pound UFC champ had done so – but failed to deliver a performance that had brought him past accolades.

In fact, just about everyone thought he lost to Mauricio “Shogun” Rua, save for three California State Athletic Commission judges. When the judges made their call, boos echoed throughout the Staples Center.

Machida looked surprised at the decision and tried in vain to turn the crowd around with apologies. He and Rua were cordial, exchanging congratulations and a “good fight.”

Afterwards, Machida’s father Yoshizo and middleweight champion Anderson Silva lectured him on his mistakes backstage.

“They came in and told me some of the things I was doing wrong, and it’s a learning experience,” said Machida.

The champion declined to say whether he felt he had won the fight and said the decision was not his call.

“Every time you go in there, you always want to try and make the fans happy, and it’s a little depressing when they don’t cheer for you, when they boo you,” he said.

It was the first time in Machida’s UFC career that he’d lost a round, and the first time he’d emerged from a fight with the marks to prove it. The last time that happened was when he fought B.J. Penn as a heavyweight in March 2005. That, and a few dojo battles with his brother Chizo.

Rua spent the majority of the fight hacking at his legs, taking away the feints and explosive power that characterized his title grab over Rashad Evans at UFC 96, and before that, Thiago Silva at UFC 94.

Adding to the damage was a set of red lines across his left flank where Rua’s leg had found its mark.

“I didn’t really feel too much on the rib cage, but the legs, I started to feel it on the inside of one of my legs, and it was bothering me,” he said.

His vaunted accuracy all but disappeared in the sporadic exchanges with Rua.

Prior to the fight, there was some speculation among media members that Machida may have not been 100-percent – he was seen nursing a Kleenex in the days prior – but the champion said he was fine.

It was just a bad night.

“I was a hundred percent, but sometimes when you get in there, you’re strategy doesn’t always work exactly like you planned it to,” he said. “I would have liked to perform better, but it happens sometimes.

"I was looking to finish the fight whenever I could, but it showed that Shogun came very well prepared for this fight. I was constantly trying to find openings to finish the fight, but unfortunately, I didn’t get that."


All Machida could do was promise a better performance next time. He said he would go back to Belem and look at the fight again to begin the process of correcting his mistakes.

“It’s just going to motivate me to train harder and I can guarantee you I’m going to put a better performance next time,” he said.

Don’t be surprised if Rua is waiting for him when he gets back.

“If the UFC decides we should have a rematch, then let’s have a rematch,” said Machida.
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Old 10-26-2009, 12:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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he was seen nursing a Kleenex in the days prior
^^WTF can some one explain this?
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^^WTF can some one explain this?
Sounds like he had some sort of upper respiratory infection to me.
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Sounds like he had some sort of upper respiratory infection to me.
Aka common cold... He wasn't affected in the ring by any cold like symptoms though.
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Look what Rua done to him! It's so nice to see Lyoto looking all beat up. He looks a happy and relieved man and so he should be.

This fight has made me feel really positive about MMA just when I was thinking it was becoming a little stagnant and uncompetative. I will bet my right nostril hair that there will be a Shogun vs Machida 3.
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he is also the king of interview elusiveness, saying alot, while really saying nothing.... i like that he thinks he was constantly looking for ways to finish the fight.... 0 sense of urgency, 0 gameplan changing, 0 exchanges won, way to keep up the pressure Dragon.
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he is also the king of interview elusiveness, saying alot, while really saying nothing.... i like that he thinks he was constantly looking for ways to finish the fight.... 0 sense of urgency, 0 gameplan changing, 0 exchanges won, way to keep up the pressure Dragon.
You gotta watch the fight over. It was Machida who tried ending the fight surprisingly in the opening stanza with knees to the body, another well timed knee when Shogun tried to take him down, and in the 3rd round where he exploded with combinations. Whether it was effective or not it played a key in the judges mind. That's the only definitive round he won. One and two were toss ups, but happened to go his way.

Shogun never once tried to end it. He simply wore him down with kicks. That was his mistake for letting it go to the judges. The challenger has to take it. Only justifying what the judges saw.
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You gotta watch the fight over. It was Machida who tried ending the fight surprisingly in the opening stanza with knees to the body, another well timed knee when Shogun tried to take him down, and in the 3rd round where he exploded with combinations. Whether it was effective or not it played a key in the judges mind. That's the only definitive round he won. One and two were toss ups, but happened to go his way.

Shogun never once tried to end it. He simply wore him down with kicks. That was his mistake for letting it go to the judges. The challenger has to take it. Only justifying what the judges saw.

again, how do you end a fight vs a guy that runs away from every real exchange?? lol the challenger has to take it from the running champion... the reason for the kicks was it was all he could get since machida wanted none of any real exchange.... i dont know what you watching besides that one flurry in the third (which ended with a biggest shot of the exchange, Shoguns big right that bkaced machida off) where did Machida try to end it?? you consider that knee trying to end it?? then how about the knees that made machidas ribs look like they were bleeding internally??

Again, more made up judging rules... the challenger has to try n end it?? lol, no, he has to win, by submission, KO or points... winning a decision is trying to win the fight, he was doing the most damage the only way machida and his runaway style allow, in and out quickly, with big leg shots, i dont know what else you want?? Its fair that he Shogun can control the fight but since he doesnt do his usual berserker leave himself at risk, which is esp dangerous against a guy like machida he doesnt win...


ill write it down, the only way judges will give a win over machida is if you fight dumb, leave yourself completely open to counters all match and risk losing a fight you are controlling.... sounds real fair

nobody wants to give Shogun the credit he deserves, AMAZING, this guy fights like Wandy most of the time, but he came in calm, composed and played machidas game and beat him at it, thats a true MMArtist, he adapted to his opponent, changed a style he has been famous for for years and used a completely different strategy to beat a very cunning and game opponent. He should be LAUDED for this, not scorned, if Wandy did the same ppls jaws would drop, changing your entire style to adjust to an unconvential fighter, and not only doing it well, pretty much beating an "unbeatable" opponenet with his own style, amazing and history making imo

When have you ever seen Machida change his style?? Never... he never comes out super aggressive, he always counters and backs up.... he couldnt adjust on the fly whatsoever to what Shogun was doing, but all i ever hear is about how he is one of the most intelligent, cunning fighters in the game.... i dont think Spider would take a leg beating while landing nothing and not adjust like that, it was shameful imo, he knows one style, if you beat him at it, he seems lost. Good thing his style allows him to not get KO'd or rocked since it invovles running from every big exchange unless you have signigigant advantage or land 1st.

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You gotta watch the fight over. It was Machida who tried ending the fight surprisingly in the opening stanza with knees to the body, another well timed knee when Shogun tried to take him down, and in the 3rd round where he exploded with combinations. Whether it was effective or not it played a key in the judges mind. That's the only definitive round he won. One and two were toss ups, but happened to go his way.

Shogun never once tried to end it. He simply wore him down with kicks. That was his mistake for letting it go to the judges. The challenger has to take it. Only justifying what the judges saw.
I watched the fight more than once and I didn't see that Shogun was trying to take Lyoto down, I think it was more along the lines of cutting in to clinch. Sure Machida caught him with a knee, but it was one knee and that's not trying to end a fight, that's throwing one strike. It was a good strike and it landed but soon as he landed it Shogun kneed him right back.

As far as the exchange in the 3rd round Machida came in and started throwing, he punched Shogun in the gloves a couple times and then missed a couple times and then got the crap knocked out of him with a big right hand compliments of Shogun. The only punch in that whole exchange that even landed was the big right hand of Shogun.

It seems to me you are trying to justify Machida winning the fight by one knee and a couple punches that didn't land?? Kind of an odd way to judge a fight that goes 25 minutes don't you think??

One important part to watch and probably the most important part of the fight is the end after the final bell. Watch Shogun throw up his hands...he KNOWS he won the fight. Machida throws up his hands after seeing Shogun's hands up, but you can tell he's not feeling it and they immediately come back down. They stand in the center of the cage for the announcement. They announce there is a unanimous decision and you can see all the life suck out of Machida...he knows he lost. Then the announcement "Machida!!". Look at Machida's face...he can't believe he just won. I'm sure if you could read his mind at this point he'd probably be saying something along the lines of "Thank God those judges were smoking crack backstage earlier".
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After watching live, I was really shocked at the decision. After rewatching without the sound on, I thought Machida clearly won rounds 2/3, Shogun clearly won 4/5 and 1 was a tossup.
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