OliverTwist

Just wondering what the opinion of the forum is. Thats seems to be the point of contention for most people. How he managed to outscore Rua when most people have Rua outstriking him is amazing. In my mind Shogun blocked or evaded the majority of them. People are still referring to Machida's flurry he threw, I think in the third round, to show an example of his effective striking, but if you actually watch it carefully, you notice he barely lands anything. Infact, Shogun catches him with a mean right which forces Machida to go for the clinch to slow things down.

xeberus

Yea a mean right, if he took that right on the chin instead of past the temple the fight would have been over.

No his counters weren't effective, he never got close to hurting shogun yet he was limping and gassed by the end of the fight. Clearly shoguns strikes were more effective, well I mean he hit machida so much more often than machida hit him I can't be certain but beat machida's ass he did.

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Hammerlock2.0

Just looking at them both after the fight one can see that Shogun did a lot more damage than Lyoto did. Machida's strikes may have been effective, but Shogun's were more effective without a doubt.

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T.Bone

Yeah exactly.

The countering was there but it was pretty insignificant, even though it was scoring him points. He just looked out of his element and slightly over-whelmed the whole fight IMO.