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post #1 of 73 (permalink) Old 10-27-2009, 03:59 PM Thread Starter
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Machida sais he won 4 rounds???

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“I thought it was a very even and tough fight. I had the opportunity to see the fight again and I thought I won four rounds and Shogun took the last one. Some people say he won the fourth and fifth round, but for sure I won at least the first three rounds. The American commentators were pretty much biased. If you see the fight without audio, you will probably see a different fight. Shogun was a great opponent and had a nice strategy. He deserves all my respect as a fighter, but I was superior. I had three or four chances to finish the fight, and he never put me in danger. I didn’t get (dazed) at any moment of the fight, but I put him in danger three or four times. He kicked my legs a couple of times, but he wouldn’t knock me out with that. This fight was judged by professionals, so I’m pretty much comfortable with the result.”

Reigning light heavyweight champion Lyoto Machida talks to Sherdog.com about his controversial unanimous decision win over challenger Mauricio Rua at UFC 104 last Saturday night in Los Angeles. “Shogun” appeared to be getting the better of the exchanges in their five round title fight but “The Dragon” blames biased American commentators for selling Rua’s offense as more than it actually was. Is it possible that a majority of fans were hypnotized by the pro-Rua ramblings of Joe Rogan and Mike Goldberg? Or has Machida been looking at the replay through urine-colored glasses? Where do you stand, Maniacs?
Not sure if this was posted but i did two different searches and couldnt find it. Man just when i started to like Lyoto he goes and ruins it. I cant actually believe that he thinks he even won the fight much less 4 rounds.


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post #2 of 73 (permalink) Old 10-27-2009, 04:05 PM
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I admit there was that flurry where Machida got quite a few punches in a row and backed Shogun back to the cage. But besides that... the fight was all Shogun.
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I admit there was that flurry where Machida got quite a few punches in a row and backed Shogun back to the cage. But besides that... the fight was all Shogun.
If you watch that flurries again you notice that in that exchange the "Best" punch was actually landed by Shogun even though Machida landed more.

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Wait what? Lyoto Lyoto Lyoto why must you put your foot in your mouth? Man when people read this they'll be a backlash
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I posted this in the official thread as it looked like the mods we're moving all the Machida/Shogun threads over there anyway.

Heres the full piece:-

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles...uperior-20576?

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Tuesday, October 27, 2009
by Marcelo Alonso (malonso@sherdog.com)

Following his controversial unanimous decision over Mauricio “Shogun” Rua at UFC 104, UFC light heavyweight champion Lyoto Machida discussed the fight via phone with Sherdog.com’s Marcelo Alonso.

“I thought it was a very even and tough fight,” Machida said. “I had the opportunity to see the fight again and I thought I won four rounds and Shogun took the last one. Some people say he won the fourth and fifth round, but for sure I won at least the first three rounds. The American commentators were pretty much biased. If you see the fight without audio, you will probably see a different fight.

“Shogun was a great opponent and had a nice strategy. He deserves all my respect as a fighter, but I was superior. I had three or four chances to finish the fight, and he never put me in danger. I didn’t get (dazed) at any moment of the fight, but I put him in danger three or four times. He kicked my legs a couple of times, but he wouldn’t knock me out with that.”

Machida guaranteed that his disappointed expression immediately after the fight did not stem from a belief that he had lost.

“My leg started to hurt in the fifth round, and I was very upset that I couldn’t knock him out as I had planned,” Machida said. “I had two chances where I felt him really (dazed), but I lost it and I get really upset when I leave the decision in the judges’ hands.”

After confirming that he totally agrees with a rematch, Machida also addressed UFC President Dana White’s statement that he thought Shogun was the winner.

“Anyone who has a mouth can talk. I respect his opinion and I’m ready to fight Shogun or any other challenger UFC decides, but I would like to say that this fight was not judged by myself, my father or Anderson Silva,” Machida said. “This fight was judged by professionals, so I’m pretty much comfortable with the result.”

After taking two weeks vacation in Hawaii with his family, Lyoto is planning to return to his training routine in Belém.

“It’s time to celebrate the win and relax from the hard training routine,” he said. “After that I will check what happened to my hand (it’s hurt), if it needs some surgery, then analyze my mistakes in this fight carefully with my family to restart my training routine. No matter who is my next opponent, I’ll give some rest to my mind and body and return 100 percent to the training to get ready for my next challenge. If it’s Shogun again, I’ll study his game and make a different strategy to please the fans with a better fight.”


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i know im going deeper into red for this, esp from the newfound machida fans that only watched 2 or 3 fights of his, thinking he is a KO artist..... had shogun in trouble 3 or 4 times.... close to ending it.... is this some kind of joke?? Say it was close, your comfortable with the decision, but you are seriously sipping your own koolaid too much if you really think you had Shogun in trouble at any point... a guy renowned for his chin will not get rocked by 1 or 2 of your sissy karate punches... wow


this kind of arrogance gives me much hope for a dominating rematch from Shogun, Machida obv thinks he had this in the bag the entire time, i believe that, he had no sense of urgency the entire fight and seems incapable to come back from behind in a fight, because he wont change that defensive style.
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Machida says he was never in any trouble and was never dazed, but neither was Shogun. I think Shogun won 3 and Machida won 2, when were these 3 or 4 chances to finish the fight Machida talks about? I think it's quite pathetic almost, what he's saying is "I could have finished the fight I just didn't want to". I think Shogun damaged Machida more than Machida damaged Shogun, considering Machida's limp, rib cage and lips after the fight.

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won 4 rounds? Could have finished the fight? When a good 90 percent of the MMA community, all media outlets, and the president of the UFC says you LOST. Machida needs to stop smelling himself, and now I hope that Shogun even further removed from his surgery and still getting better will really tool his ass next time.
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won 4 rounds? Could have finished the fight? When a good 90 percent of the MMA community, all media outlets, and the president of the UFC says you LOST. Machida needs to stop smelling himself, and now I hope that Shogun even further removed from his surgery and still getting better will really tool his ass next time.
90% of the community? All media outlets?

You need to take off your Shogun tinted specs.
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90% of the community? All media outlets?

You need to take off your Shogun tinted specs.
Your boy lost... admit it. You need to take off your MaCheetah tinted specs.

Did you see the press conference after UFC 104? Even the other fighters there all said Shogun won.
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