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Old 12-20-2006, 02:56 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I hope Hughs tries to stand with the kid. I think he will, and get embarassed. Hughs is a cocky bastard, he will stand. But I doubt he will ever try trading with GSP again. Ever. Exrta training or not. And what the hell ever happened to Hughs moving up to avenge Rich? Anyways....
Yeah, it almost seems like Hughes has a defect when it comes to striking. Like he doesn't have the ability to hit hard and accurately. So he tries to throw accurate shots but they're not devastating. Anyone else agree?
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Old 12-20-2006, 03:38 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I really hope this comes through. I can't see Hughes risking striking again. Not until he has his belt back anyway. Diego does look good for this matchup but really, if it goes to the ground you have to give it to Hughes as he's pretty much seen everything there is on the deck. Either way I don't think it's do or die for any of them. Both have proven themselves to be shit hot fighters so it'll be a good few losses before they'll be shown the door. Hughes is only 30, hardly old considering the older fighters we've seen recently.

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I really hope this comes through. I can't see Hughes risking striking again. Not until he has his belt back anyway. Diego does look good for this matchup but really, if it goes to the ground you have to give it to Hughes as he's pretty much seen everything there is on the deck. Either way I don't think it's do or die for any of them. Both have proven themselves to be shit hot fighters so it'll be a good few losses before they'll be shown the door. Hughes is only 30, hardly old considering the older fighters we've seen recently.

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Still a lot of years yet & those are just top quality fighters off the top of my head.



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I really hope this comes through. I can't see Hughes risking striking again. Not until he has his belt back anyway. Diego does look good for this matchup but really, if it goes to the ground you have to give it to Hughes as he's pretty much seen everything there is on the deck. Either way I don't think it's do or die for any of them. Both have proven themselves to be shit hot fighters so it'll be a good few losses before they'll be shown the door. Hughes is only 30, hardly old considering the older fighters we've seen recently.

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Still a lot of years yet & those are just top quality fighters off the top of my head.

No it is do or die for both of them, just to a lesser degree. You have to realize the WW division is absolutely STACKED. If Matt Hughes wins, he solidifies himself and the number 1 contender and gets his shot back. If Diego wins then he puts himself in the same position. But understand that the person who loses could have a rough time rising back to the top. They may be forced to face off against BJ Penn, Josh Koscheck, and Jon Fitch before returning to the possibility of a title fight. For Diego Sanchez this might be beneficial because I truly beleive he doesn't not want to fight GSP until he has at least 2 more wins under his belt, but for Matt Hughes, while a loss won't put him into retirement, he will fall into the same standing that 3,4 and maybe even 5 other WW hold. That's ok for Diego because he's still on the rise, but for Matt Hughes, he's no longer the superhot star he used to be and likely will never be again.


All of that doesn't really matter in my opinion though, because I don't beleive Hughes or Diego could beat GSP by april. Maybe by september Diego could have gotten it together...

Please understand that If BJ comes back to WW, that means if Hughes loses to Diego, he will have to face off vs Penn. ANyone who still thinks Hughes is the favorite vs penn is crazy and I think he has a worst shot vs penn than he does vs GSP. So a loss here, could very well be Matt Hughes' downfall. Not so much for Diego, either way I see him as a rising star and its up to him to prove how high he can go...he has to rise above GSP and BJ Penn and thats' completely up to him, no one will count him out when he loses to GSP now...even Diego seems to know he's not htere yet.
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No it is do or die for both of them, just to a lesser degree. You have to realize the WW division is absolutely STACKED. If Matt Hughes wins, he solidifies himself and the number 1 contender and gets his shot back. If Diego wins then he puts himself in the same position. But understand that the person who loses could have a rough time rising back to the top. They may be forced to face off against BJ Penn, Josh Koscheck, and Jon Fitch before returning to the possibility of a title fight. For Diego Sanchez this might be beneficial because I truly beleive he doesn't not want to fight GSP until he has at least 2 more wins under his belt, but for Matt Hughes, while a loss won't put him into retirement, he will fall into the same standing that 3,4 and maybe even 5 other WW hold. That's ok for Diego because he's still on the rise, but for Matt Hughes, he's no longer the superhot star he used to be and likely will never be again.


All of that doesn't really matter in my opinion though, because I don't beleive Hughes or Diego could beat GSP by april. Maybe by september Diego could have gotten it together...

Please understand that If BJ comes back to WW, that means if Hughes loses to Diego, he will have to face off vs Penn. ANyone who still thinks Hughes is the favorite vs penn is crazy and I think he has a worst shot vs penn than he does vs GSP. So a loss here, could very well be Matt Hughes' downfall. Not so much for Diego, either way I see him as a rising star and its up to him to prove how high he can go...he has to rise above GSP and BJ Penn and thats' completely up to him, no one will count him out when he loses to GSP now...even Diego seems to know he's not htere yet.
I feel that BJ is the only one in a league to beat Hughes or Sanchez (obviously not counting GSP) at the moment. So either countering a loss would be on their way back to the top, given a few more fights.
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No it is do or die for both of them, just to a lesser degree. You have to realize the WW division is absolutely STACKED. If Matt Hughes wins, he solidifies himself and the number 1 contender and gets his shot back. If Diego wins then he puts himself in the same position. But understand that the person who loses could have a rough time rising back to the top. They may be forced to face off against BJ Penn, Josh Koscheck, and Jon Fitch before returning to the possibility of a title fight. For Diego Sanchez this might be beneficial because I truly beleive he doesn't not want to fight GSP until he has at least 2 more wins under his belt, but for Matt Hughes, while a loss won't put him into retirement, he will fall into the same standing that 3,4 and maybe even 5 other WW hold. That's ok for Diego because he's still on the rise, but for Matt Hughes, he's no longer the superhot star he used to be and likely will never be again.


All of that doesn't really matter in my opinion though, because I don't beleive Hughes or Diego could beat GSP by april. Maybe by september Diego could have gotten it together...

Please understand that If BJ comes back to WW, that means if Hughes loses to Diego, he will have to face off vs Penn. ANyone who still thinks Hughes is the favorite vs penn is crazy and I think he has a worst shot vs penn than he does vs GSP. So a loss here, could very well be Matt Hughes' downfall. Not so much for Diego, either way I see him as a rising star and its up to him to prove how high he can go...he has to rise above GSP and BJ Penn and thats' completely up to him, no one will count him out when he loses to GSP now...even Diego seems to know he's not htere yet.

You keep saying Penn will be a contender at WW but I think he is gonna move down to lightweight and take the title of Sherk. He is gonna coach the lightweight season and he is gonna fight pulver at 155.
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diego wont win,hes jumping in the level of the opponent hes facing to far. He will lose a 3 unani or get pounded out in the crusifix position like hughes did to newton and penn.
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I really hope this comes through. I can't see Hughes risking striking again. Not until he has his belt back anyway. Diego does look good for this matchup but really, if it goes to the ground you have to give it to Hughes as he's pretty much seen everything there is on the deck. Either way I don't think it's do or die for any of them. Both have proven themselves to be shit hot fighters so it'll be a good few losses before they'll be shown the door. Hughes is only 30, hardly old considering the older fighters we've seen recently.

Couture : 42
Liddell : 37
Van Arsdale : 41

Still a lot of years yet & those are just top quality fighters off the top of my head.
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[QUPTE=Zender] Hughes is only 30, hardly old considering the older fighters we've seen recently. [/quote]

Wow, I thought he was around 35... Don't know why

Hughes has a few years ahead of him, he can wait for a rematch with GSP
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