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post #11 of 149 (permalink) Old 11-03-2009, 03:34 AM
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i was more disappointed for Cain then i was for Ben, because it gives ppl another thing to nitpick on him and i think he was on the way to a very convincing TKO. No matter what Ben says he looked dazed, confused and gassed, ready to be taken out, Cain looked fresh.

He certainly doesnt lack confidence, im looking forward to Ben getting another shot with a good HW, i say Cro Cop but since its unlikely ill settle for Hardonk.
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I think fighters should sign a clause where it says they're prepared to take the KO, TKO without referee stoppage. Probably not the safest route, but I can see why he was fuming. He spent 10 years to get to that level. He was losing pretty badly, but he had heart and was still fighting. He was the same referee who stopped Brock's initial fight wasn't he and gave Burns the TKO win over Johnson with the eye poke. Yah he needs to go...
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post #13 of 149 (permalink) Old 11-03-2009, 06:33 AM
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Haha! Good one Ben!

It's like being in the playground and the big kid is getting beat down by smaller kid, before teacher jumps in. Big kid then yaps on and on about how he was gonna crush smaller kid just before teach saved his arse.

Ben. My man. You looked defeated coming into that second round whereas Cain looked like he was just ready to start your beating proper.
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post #14 of 149 (permalink) Old 11-03-2009, 06:41 AM
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i agree that it was a questionable stoppage, but he was getting beaten badly out there and would have been finished sooner or later anyway. the fact is though he was taking unanswered blows, whether your taking damage or not you still need to be defending yourself.

in fact, i thought there were parts in the first round where the fight easily could have been stopped. so in a way he's lucky it got to round 2.

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Looks like he's just trying to ensure another fight, he was getting beat pretty bad at the time, he probably would have lasted a little longer, but not that much...

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post #16 of 149 (permalink) Old 11-03-2009, 06:58 AM
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Steve warned Ben during the break that he could not let him take those kinds of shots! Ben nodded!

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Great stoppage. He should be glad that ref stopped it cause he was gonna take a massive beating for the rest of the fight.
I agree 100%!

There was nothing wrong with that stoppage!

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I didn't like the stoppage but after this fight and the Kongo fight I definatly agree that Velasquez obviously punches like a grandmother.

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Steve warned Ben during the break that he could not let him take those kinds of shots! Ben nodded!
This to me is really what is important. Was it a questionable stoppage? Maybe. But Mazagatti was clear between rounds, don't take a bunch of shots in this round or I am going to stop the fight. When I was watching the fight I thought to myself "this is over".

Maybe it was questionable in that Ben was trying to stand up, but as a smart fighter, he knew the ref was going to be watching the fight closely after the first round. He should not have allowed Cain to punch his face unguarded at that point.

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I agree 100%!

There was nothing wrong with that stoppage!
A lot of people are skeptical due to Mazzagati's history of questionable stoppages.

This one was slightly less questionable, IMO.

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