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Old 11-04-2009, 09:41 PM   #21 (permalink)
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one of the best matchups ive seen in a long time. AWSOME fight
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:43 PM   #22 (permalink)
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If Nog shows up looking like he did against Couture he takes this impressively.

He absolutely tooled Couture. Couture's wrestling had nothing on him, what is Velasquez's wrestling going to do?

And there's no way that Cain's going to knock Nog out. And if he tries to lay and pray to a decision he's going to get subbed.

Bet the house on Nog!

Then let's see Nog vs Lesnar. Nog's wrestling > Coutures, and Couture neutralized Lesnar's, plus Nog has way better stand up and a better chin. There's definitely a lot of chance for Nog to take the title.
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:58 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Wow, very tough fight for Nog. Awsome test for Velasquez.

Hard to pick a winner here. This fight has alot of possibilities for different outcomes.
Just curious, how does Cain win this?

He's not going to knock Nog out, he's healthy now. Plus in the stand up Nog's boxing is probably 10x superior to Cain's striking.

Nog's wrestling dominated Couture's wrestling... so I dunno how much trouble Velasquez can present with his?

And if he can take Nog down, he's on the ground with one of the most dangerous groundfighters on the planet. I doubt he'll be lay-and-praying for the UD without getting subbed.

I think this is too big of a matchup for Cain right now. Seriously, Cain gets Nog, the #4 HW in the world, and JDS gets GONZAGA? If anything, feed Cain to JDS so we can establish a better ranking. Nog is going to walk through Cain, and JDS will have basically no problem with Gonzaga.
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:01 PM   #24 (permalink)
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This card is...AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWESOME!!!

If there's no injuries, this could be the best UFC event of all time.

Shane Carwin vs. Brock Lesnar
Gabe Gonzaga vs. Junior Dos Santos
Carlos Condit vs. Paul Daley
Rory Markham vs. Martin Kampmann
Big Nog vs. Cain Velasquez
Thiago Silva vs. Rashad Evans
Tyson Griffin vs. Jim Miller
Joe Lauzon vs. Sam Stout
Dan Lauzon vs. Cole Miller

THAT is how a card should be. Evenly matched fights and a clash of different styles. This is a card, people.
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:10 PM   #25 (permalink)
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i wouldnt be surprised if either one of them wins but i have a feeling nog can pull off the win.
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I still got Cain winning this. His striking has impressed me more than Nog's and if he wont get stupid like Randy and jumps into Nog's guard he can control where the fight goes.

Also if Cain plays it smart like Lesnar did against Mir and only goes to ground when he can secure good position instantly (Brock stood up from Mir's guard and took him down right after and ended up in side control) we might actually see Nog finished for second time by Cain's nasty G&P.
Nasty GnP, really??

Fedor's GnP is nasty, possibly the nastiest in the sport and it didn't finish Big Nog.

Cain won't finish a healthy Nog with his GnP.

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Just curious, how does Cain win this?

He's not going to knock Nog out, he's healthy now. Plus in the stand up Nog's boxing is probably 10x superior to Cain's striking.

Nog's wrestling dominated Couture's wrestling... so I dunno how much trouble Velasquez can present with his?

And if he can take Nog down, he's on the ground with one of the most dangerous groundfighters on the planet. I doubt he'll be lay-and-praying for the UD without getting subbed.

I think this is too big of a matchup for Cain right now. Seriously, Cain gets Nog, the #4 HW in the world, and JDS gets GONZAGA? If anything, feed Cain to JDS so we can establish a better ranking. Nog is going to walk through Cain, and JDS will have basically no problem with Gonzaga.
It will come down to whether or not Cain's top control can neutralize Nog's sub and sweep attempts. Tough task if you ask me.

I don't see him TKOing and subbing Nog tbh but he could take a UD.

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This card is...AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWESOME!!!

If there's no injuries, this could be the best UFC event of all time.

Shane Carwin vs. Brock Lesnar
Gabe Gonzaga vs. Junior Dos Santos
Carlos Condit vs. Paul Daley
Rory Markham vs. Martin Kampmann
Big Nog vs. Cain Velasquez
Thiago Silva vs. Rashad Evans
Tyson Griffin vs. Jim Miller
Joe Lauzon vs. Sam Stout
Dan Lauzon vs. Cole Miller

THAT is how a card should be. Evenly matched fights and a clash of different styles. This is a card, people.
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:22 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Even without Carwin/Lesnar, that card is still tits.
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:23 PM   #28 (permalink)
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True, but itd be insanely stacked with Lesnar/Carwin on it.
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Man, I really hope these fights happen. Hard to get my hopes up this far in advance but a great wrestler vs a great jujitsu player can be the fight of the night.
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