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post #11 of 26 (permalink) Old 12-21-2006, 06:45 PM
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1) He is not an exciting fighter that does the very bare minimum to win his fights.
2) UFC had fairly crappy HW competition and ever since winning the belt he hasn’t taken it off no matter where he goes like the grocery store, bars, the shower, funerals, but isn’t really good enough to be that proud about it.
3) If this isn’t reason enough nothing is. eBay: Sony PlayStation 3 - Game console (item 250059500552 end time Dec-19-06 10:21:16 PST)

I think a better post would be "why should we like Tim Sylvia?" I might make one as a matter of fact.
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He's boring. If you are champion, no matter what organization you belong to, you should never say that you would lose to another organizations champion, no matter how true it would be. Sylvia said in an interview that Fedor would destroy is ass, although that may be true, he shouldn't actually being saying it. Statements like this make is look dumb and goofey. I lost what little respect I had for him after I saw this.

I could careless about the roid thing because that is in the past. Same goes with the shitting his pants situation, he was sick and still fought. What would have happened if he backed out of the fight saying he was sick? People would have been riding his ass for backing out.
what interview was that do you have a link i only saw the one where he called him a little shit and said that he matches well with him

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i agree, Tim did land some viscouse KO's in most of his fights. Until someone beats him he's the champ. I think it would be hilariouse if Tim Ko'd Fedor or Cro-Cop with a lucky hay-maker. Then what would all the Sylvia haters say then? I like Sylvia but i get why everyone hates him he is a bit of a tool. But before we crucify Timmy for his mistakes, Think about this....

*Half of Pride is on steroids

*If Lidell shit himself due to an illness, and then won the fight, people would say he has so much heart.

*AA was even less agressive then Tim in thier 3rd fight

*Monson was trying to fight in-close to nuetrilize Tim's reach advantage, made for a boring fight.

As for Blind Date, I can't stick up for him there. He had a date with what i like to call a "lay up" or any easy basket(lay). she was drinking like a fish, and he ordered a grasshopper(embarrassing). This girl was ready to go and he blew it. Tim seemed like such a nerd, all the guy knows is training. He has 0 social skills. (on Youtube)

But he is not a bad fighter.
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What has the guy done to get such a bad reputation nobody had a problem with him untill he won the belt. He does not talk trash are act cocky I mean tito is the biggest ass in the ufc but everyone still likes him. Just want to know.
There was an entire additional thread on this already, but I'll restate exactly what I said, just for the hell of it:

1) Tim Sylvia used steriods. Barnett used steriods and it he's never fought in the UFC once, but Dana White just let Sylvia go on it. I hold a personal grudge against both of them for Barnett's case, but I also hate the idea of any athlete using steroids.

2) He doesn't push for better competition. At least Monson is taking some initiative and now that he's out of his UFC contract he is going to fight Fedor, not necessarily because he thinks he can win, but because he wants the competition.

3) Sylvia doesn't put on a show. There was a time when I loved watching Sylvia because he could finish a fight. He hasn't been able to do that and he's been in worse and worse shape every time he steps into the octagon. If you don't train your hardest before every fight, I don't think you deserve to be called a champion.

4) The only reason he still has his title is because Dana White hasn't bought a decent contract in the last 6 events. He needs to bring in a good Heavyweight to challenge Sylvia, and the top 5 guys (Fedor, CroCop, Barnett, Big Nog and Hunt) are all under contract with PRIDE at the moment, so he's gonna have to spend some money to get someone good.

5) Sylvia does talk sh*t. I don't know why you think he doesn't, but he does. He did it against Arlovski, both times they fought, he did it before the Monson fight too. If he had any balls to back his comments up he'd do what Chuck did and take his ass over to PRIDE for an event. Then again, he'd probably end up like Chuck did.

Someone mentioned Andrei Arlovski and why don't we hate Andrei. Here's the difference:

1) Andrei doesn't talk sh*t about fighters he has no intention of fighting.

2) Andrei has only had one bad performance, he admitted that his fight with Sylvia was horrible, and he has said that he has trained his ass off for the fight with Pe De Pano.

3) Andrei wants to put on a show every time he steps into the ring. The reason he didn't do that at the third Sylvia fight was because he was thinking too much about the last time he got KO'd. The mind games got to him and he paid for that.

Sylvia has admitted recently that he would get smashed by Fedor and apologizing for the "little sh*t" comment he made after the third Arlovski fight. I thinks it a dumb publicity more for him to talk about anyone in another organization, but that's just my opinion.

I think Sylvia has great potential and he's a great fighter, but if he ever wants my respect back he needs to get in good shape and smash all of the crappy opponents that the UFC throws at him, not do this crappy "Unanimous Decision" crap that he's been showing in his last two fights. KTFO these guys that don't deserve to be in the octagon.

Anyway, that's my rant.



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hey i dont hate Sylvia, i used to like him. But now he just fights for the money. Does what he needs to win and doesnt care if the fight is exciting.

I KNOW his job is to win, but he gets "paid" by the fans so winning by being boring is really a loss. If he is boring in his next fight the PPV for his next fight will be bad, maybe then Dana will do something.

I like the yellow card thing from Pride, but im sure Tim would have made no money apart from the "unaccounted for money". So thats quite a bit <_<
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i agree, Tim did land some viscouse KO's in most of his fights. Until someone beats him he's the champ. I think it would be hilariouse if Tim Ko'd Fedor or Cro-Cop with a lucky hay-maker. Then what would all the Sylvia haters say then? I like Sylvia but i get why everyone hates him he is a bit of a tool. But before we crucify Timmy for his mistakes, Think about this....

*Half of Pride is on steroids

*If Lidell shit himself due to an illness, and then won the fight, people would say he has so much heart.

*AA was even less agressive then Tim in thier 3rd fight

*Monson was trying to fight in-close to nuetrilize Tim's reach advantage, made for a boring fight.

As for Blind Date, I can't stick up for him there. He had a date with what i like to call a "lay up" or any easy basket(lay). she was drinking like a fish, and he ordered a grasshopper(embarrassing). This girl was ready to go and he blew it. Tim seemed like such a nerd, all the guy knows is training. He has 0 social skills. (on Youtube)

But he is not a bad fighter.
I can't blame Tim for not wanting some of that drunk girls cooter. All she needed to do was smoke(Did she? it's been a while since I've seen that episode), and you have all the turn off's on one episode.

I pretty much agree with everything else you've posted.

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whats this about Tim turing down some half assed ass
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I can't blame Tim for not wanting some of that drunk girls cooter. All she needed to do was smoke(Did she? it's been a while since I've seen that episode), and you have all the turn off's on one episode.

I pretty much agree with everything else you've posted.
She was definetly bonafied white trash, but she really was'nt bad looking, she was'nt a model or anything, but definetly #$@!able. If you met her at a bar, and she said "take me home", i'm sure you would'nt hesitate. and besides if Tim had other irons on the fire i don't think he would have gone on that show.
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To answer your question, people hate Tim Sylvia because they are ignorant. A few bad fights does not constitute this much trash talk. Sylvia is the champion because he wins, there is no denying that. I don't care how he wins as long as he wins he is champion. That doesn't mean I like him. I really like AA and I think he is the better fighter. Regardless, Tim beat him. He took steroids, he apologized. He shit himself, SHUT THE HELL UP! He's a little chubby, so what.

I don't think he's very exciting but I'd like to see any of you step in the ring with him. Until he gets beat by one of these guys that is supposed to stomp him, TIM SYLVIA IS THE CHAMPION! Motherf*cker. If you can't wait to see some one else beat him, you try it.
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To answer your question, people hate Tim Sylvia because they are ignorant. A few bad fights does not constitute this much trash talk. Sylvia is the champion because he wins, there is no denying that. I don't care how he wins as long as he wins he is champion. That doesn't mean I like him. I really like AA and I think he is the better fighter. Regardless, Tim beat him. He took steroids, he apologized. He shit himself, SHUT THE HELL UP! He's a little chubby, so what.

I don't think he's very exciting but I'd like to see any of you step in the ring with him. Until he gets beat by one of these guys that is supposed to stomp him, TIM SYLVIA IS THE CHAMPION! Motherf*cker. If you can't wait to see some one else beat him, you try it.

I think people don't like Sylvia for his personality, (wearing the belt everywhere, Doofy appearance).

That is why everyone is hard on him when he has a boring fight. Because anyone who has fought in MMA long enough has had at least a few boring fights.(not every Lidell, or Fedor fight was exciting, not every Colts or Steelers game is exciting either). And most of Tim's fights were entertaining.

Also Tim is always compared to Fedor because they are the 2 champs in thier respective shows. That is not easy.
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