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Old 12-21-2006, 03:26 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Explain to me on a physiological state exactly how its cheating? If someone wants to take the risk of doing it to there body(you can cycle "safe") then I really dont have a problem with it. 99% of you hate roids because of ignorance and the media makes everyone who uses them to be cheaters. ROIDS DO NOT MAKE YOU A GOOD FIGHTER as we have seen AGAIN AND AGAIN but they WILL help you recover from injuries faster. 100% overblown and I could care less.
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Old 12-21-2006, 04:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Sure, you keep telling yourself that to make yourself feel better, bro. Fact of the matter is, your ass can't handle shit on your own. I never said steroids make you a better fighter, you assumed that on your own damn imcompetence. Steroids DO create an added level of testosterone (in short, if you're a *****, you lose your pre-fight jitters and lax, calm composure), and also yes, the regenerative cycle is sped up but ALSO in addition to that it allows you to push past your own average or normal capacity of lifting/reps (spoken to me byy various different people whom were all on steroids), and this allows you to damage your body further which doesn't matter due to the regenerative cycle. So you can pump more, work out to keep your cardio up, study up to reduce, minimalize, and/or completely negate the side effects, and in short, you're working very hard to get the "extra help" you need because you straight up can't cut it on your own.



Look, whether we're "buying into the media" or you just can't admit to yourself you're a steroid=freak trying to justify yourself for being stupid, there's a reason it has been banned, a reason it is illegal, and there's a reason Tim Sivlia lost his title for being caught on it.



And it's even beyond MMA, as you said yourself. And I hope they find and prosecute every punk-b**** who thinks they can get away with it. If there's nothing wrong with it, why do you have to "get away" with it? If it's only a supplement, why would try to sneak past drug screenings with it and why do you need it if it is against the rules? Why fight so hard for something perfectly okay? If they banned Gatorade, would drink gatorade and try to evade a piss test just because you like Gatorade the "the electrolytes that quenches thirst better than water" (damn im thirsty now)? It's retarded.






BTW- I don't know if I can control this thread to this extent or not- but don't start name calling, that's childish, adolescent, and pointless. Thanx.
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Explain to me on a physiological state exactly how its cheating?

Simply put- if it is illegal to be caught on it and you're on it, you're cheating.
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So people "know" Sherk uses roids? Why is that? because his body? He is muscular and losing weight makes his muscles more defined.......so how the hell does anyone on this site know he uses them? Or any other fighter for that matter? You don't plain and simple. You ASSume of course, but you don't know.

I guess it does give you something to come online and act like you know about it. Too bad you are online and just look like an idiot thinking you know
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Old 12-21-2006, 06:21 PM   #15 (permalink)
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granitekonig, you have yet to make one positive post from what I've seen. You have come on here and in 7 posts managed to already tell someone to go **** themselves. You ask us how old we are, but you can't come on here and have an adult conversation with anyone. Come on now, it's a little played out to ask someone where they live, because you actually think they'd be willing to come meet you to fight you. Grow up, because I see a ban coming pretty soon. Let me guess, the next thing your gonna say is who cares, I have a life, I don't need this forum, blah blah blah.....
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back on topic....

they are not currently ufc fighters, but it's related

Vitor Belfort and Pawel Nastula have each been suspended for nine months by the Nevada State Athletic Commission as a result of their positive tests for banned substances.
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Old 12-21-2006, 06:27 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Can I throw names out there, then?


Ken Shamrock
Eddie Millis and just about every other fighter in the Shark Tank
Dean Lister



People from these guy's own CAMPS front that info


And ya know, if he ain't on 'roids, you can peep my thread on dropping weight ^_^



PS- Remember that you're on the ninternet, oo...therefore me lookig ignorant is kinda the same way that you come off as a d!ck...
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Trashing people and asking where the one guy live is out of line. There's obviuosly guys "on". I choose to not turn a blind eye to it. I wouldn't mind if they were legal, but they're not. To me, it's frustrating knowing there's an unlevel playing field out there (and they do create an edge, any arguement is rediculous). This is comming from someone who uses steroids.
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Sherk, Riggs, and plenty of others instantly come to mind. I would say Hughes is an example of what a natural weightlifter would end up looking like with good cardio.

****Keep in mind that a lot of guys do not use roids close to the event, but squeeze in a cycle during their down time between fight. I consider this to be the same thing. If you have EVER done steroids, you're a cheat, period.

LoL you are being so ignorant. You would probably say I'm on roids but I have never taken an illegal or legal test supplement in my life. People have different body types...Tim Sylvia used roids...what you think of his body?
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You're a complete f'in idiot. "You guys are just regurgitating what the anti steroid, barry bonds bs had fed you".. wtf, everyone on the face of the planet knows the side effects of steroids. Besided, in general, ANYTHING with insanely powerful results on the human body damages it elsewhere. And "90%, if not more"? Just because you're a juicer doesn't mean everyone else is. I doubt it's even 40%, if that. I'll see you in 10 years when you're bald, impotent and lonely.

"Everyone on the face of the planet knows the side effects of steroids"

ahahaha, I doubt you know anything. You are talkin about steroid ABUSE, there is a huge difference.
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