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post #21 of 35 (permalink) Old 12-21-2006, 07:01 PM
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Hey go fvck yourself pencil d*ck. Big mouth on the forum. Live in Arizona by chance? Of course there are side effects. I've done one cycle and I compete in MMA. I definitely work my a$$ of in the gym without being on juice. I know a lot of people who do. There are ways to keep side effects away but you wouldn't know anything about that. You're just some punk that feels like they're getting their punches on someone they think is some dumb steroid abuser. Fvck you

I find it Ironic that the user of steroids is calling anyone else but themselves or a fellow user a pencil d*ck. hahahaha Your ***** shrinks!
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post #22 of 35 (permalink) Old 12-21-2006, 10:17 PM
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Sure, you keep telling yourself that to make yourself feel better, bro. Fact of the matter is, your ass can't handle shit on your own. I never said steroids make you a better fighter, you assumed that on your own damn imcompetence. Steroids DO create an added level of testosterone (in short, if you're a *****, you lose your pre-fight jitters and lax, calm composure), and also yes, the regenerative cycle is sped up but ALSO in addition to that it allows you to push past your own average or normal capacity of lifting/reps (spoken to me byy various different people whom were all on steroids), and this allows you to damage your body further which doesn't matter due to the regenerative cycle. So you can pump more, work out to keep your cardio up, study up to reduce, minimalize, and/or completely negate the side effects, and in short, you're working very hard to get the "extra help" you need because you straight up can't cut it on your own.



Look, whether we're "buying into the media" or you just can't admit to yourself you're a steroid=freak trying to justify yourself for being stupid, there's a reason it has been banned, a reason it is illegal, and there's a reason Tim Sivlia lost his title for being caught on it.



And it's even beyond MMA, as you said yourself. And I hope they find and prosecute every punk-b**** who thinks they can get away with it. If there's nothing wrong with it, why do you have to "get away" with it? If it's only a supplement, why would try to sneak past drug screenings with it and why do you need it if it is against the rules? Why fight so hard for something perfectly okay? If they banned Gatorade, would drink gatorade and try to evade a piss test just because you like Gatorade the "the electrolytes that quenches thirst better than water" (damn im thirsty now)? It's retarded.






BTW- I don't know if I can control this thread to this extent or not- but don't start name calling, that's childish, adolescent, and pointless. Thanx.
Actually I am 19 and have never desired to try and cycle roids because I do have very good nutrition and use a spectrum of good supplements. BUT I really could care less fighting some roided out person then a non one... either way technique>strength and physique.
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Wow, what's up with all the sticks up peoples' asses? People do have different body types, but I never said you have to look a certain way to be on roids. In all likelihood, the guys I said show the most obvious signs fo being on roids. Enlarged forehead, ***** tit, thinning hair, and a number of other signs can be used to spot a roid user. To say that Sylvia couldn't be on roids because of his build is also ridiculous as he probably has not been taking them for long.

I played football for one of the biggest programs in Georgia and was all state in high school baseball. People at my school used roids regularly and it was extremely obvious physically and in so many other ways. I could be wrong about one of those 2 guys, and I sure didn't expect Marquadt to test positive way back when he did, but the fact remains that it is cheating and a lot more pros use it than we would like to believe.

At some point you have to fact facts fellas, this is not a Barry Bonds type thins. We are trying to clean up the sport now BEFORE it becomes a baseball fiasco.
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Wow, what's up with all the sticks up peoples' asses? People do have different body types, but I never said you have to look a certain way to be on roids. In all likelihood, the guys I said show the most obvious signs fo being on roids. Enlarged forehead, ***** tit, thinning hair, and a number of other signs can be used to spot a roid user. To say that Sylvia couldn't be on roids because of his build is also ridiculous as he probably has not been taking them for long.

I played football for one of the biggest programs in Georgia and was all state in high school baseball. People at my school used roids regularly and it was extremely obvious physically and in so many other ways. I could be wrong about one of those 2 guys, and I sure didn't expect Marquadt to test positive way back when he did, but the fact remains that it is cheating and a lot more pros use it than we would like to believe.

At some point you have to fact facts fellas, this is not a Barry Bonds type thins. We are trying to clean up the sport now BEFORE it becomes a baseball fiasco.

Enlarged forehead does not come from steroids, it comes from abuse of human growth hormone. Just to illustrate how ignorant many of you are...look at the title. "Steroids". Do you even know what steroids are? It's an extremely wide definition and not the right word for this thread.

You should have referred to them as anabolics...had the thread been started "Abuse of illegal anabolics", then it might be taken seriously. As it is now, it's obvious that the people complaining about this don't have enough information or knowledge to be argued with. I find these topics absolutely laughable. Maybe you should ban the fighter with Asthma because his inhaler is giving him roids.

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Once again I find myself sticking up for Prod1gy. He makes a very good point that MMA has to be strict on steroids "now". Before it turns into the circus that MLB was/is. Random testing is done, but not much. There's no need to nit-pick about what HGH/Test/Deca/Winny ect.. does what, that's not the point (Wang). The point is that the we all want the sport to be fair/clean.
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i'll pretend that i'm on a Barbra Walters interview lol

yes barbra, i did one cycle of test. since my job doesn't drug test but is extremly physical (construction) it didn't matter to a guy like me. yes at work i was an animal, got tons of work done, and was still able to work out after work. i dropped 15 pounds of fat and gained 8 pounds of muscle in 3 weeks. my nuts didn't shrink and i didn't kill anyone. the only drawback was that i ate more. but this is just me, i'm noone of importance. if i was in a fighting league, i'd be worried of drug tests. but for a commoner like me, a cycle of test is cool

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fighters like randleman and jeff monson come to mind when i think of anabolic steroids but that's just my opinion the fact is either of these athletes could just have really good naturall builds and good genes. alot of fighters look like they have been on steroids to the average person or even the average gym goer, we have to remember these fighters train and eat right everyday could their awesome builds come from there extreme training anbd diet methods. basically people look at these athletes and think argh there definately on gear, there's no way you can have a build like that, i go to the gym all the time and i don't look like that, that's because you don't eat and train like these athletes. still we all no the illegal substances are present in mma stephan bonnar for example who doesn't look like he's on illegal substances but tested positive, it exists and we have to be honest if used properly anabolic steroids will give you an advantage it's simple science, i therfor believe it is unfair for an athlete to use these substances just look at someone like chuck liddell or tito these fighters have done it all through there own hardwork (i'm not saying people who use steroids don't train hard)

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Once again I find myself sticking up for Prod1gy. He makes a very good point that MMA has to be strict on steroids "now". Before it turns into the circus that MLB was/is. Random testing is done, but not much. There's no need to nit-pick about what HGH/Test/Deca/Winny ect.. does what, that's not the point (Wang). The point is that the we all want the sport to be fair/clean.

Who said I didn't want the sport to be fair? Did I say that anywhere?

What I cannot stand is the ignorant finger pointing and the ridiculous ignorance about what substances do.

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post #29 of 35 (permalink) Old 12-22-2006, 11:06 AM
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I find it Ironic that the user of steroids is calling anyone else but themselves or a fellow user a pencil d*ck. hahahaha Your ***** shrinks!
you enjoy your roids!

Ill enjoy my girlfriend

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Jezus, you're a geek. Why don't you educate yourself before making a completely inaccurate statement? You, just like most of the public, is ignorant about anabolic steroids. They do not shrink your d!ck. They temporarily shrink your nuts. Your nuts come back after your cycle ends.
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Actually I am 19 and have never desired to try and cycle roids because I do have very good nutrition and use a spectrum of good supplements. BUT I really could care less fighting some roided out person then a non one... either way technique>strength and physique.

Exactly. A vey balanced viewpoint considering you've never used and you're 19.
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