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Old 12-21-2006, 09:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Aight, I know I'll catch shit for this, but ASIDE from marketing purposes, can someone tell me REALLY wtf is wrong with weighing in the same f***ing day as a fight? It would force fighters to fight at their natural weight instead of this dropping weight bulls***. Wtf is everyone so damn worried about that they have to figth f***ing two weight classes below their natural weight? Is it really ALL about winning now?
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Old 12-21-2006, 02:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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hell yeah it's all about winning. You would have to be a dumbass to step into the octagon without trying to give yourself the best possible edge to win. Why the hell would you spend so much time training and practically killing yourself if you're not looking to win??
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Old 12-21-2006, 02:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well this is an age old issue they have struggled with in boxing. The problem is that MANY of these fighers struggle to make weight and actually drain themselves of all fluids to do so. you will see in the day between the weigh in and the actual fight many gain 10 to 15 pounds. Now do you really want to be short changed of a good fight cause one of the fighters is VERY weak trying to make weight? at least with a day between they can regain some of those fluids. Also if they don't make having it a day before gives them some room to tyr and sweat it off
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Old 12-21-2006, 02:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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boxing is thinking of regualting the amount you can gain also between the weigh in and the actualy fight...
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Old 12-21-2006, 03:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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i think dropping weight is retarded. 5 pounds maybe, but even then, you're not the weight you weigh in at. how can anyone be the best at 205 when they cut weight down from 220 the day before, then drink some gatorade and gain it back? so stupid... i think it's a crappy boxing thing that has carried over to all combat sports. just have a 5 lb. leway for each weight class and leave it at that.
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Old 12-21-2006, 03:25 PM   #6 (permalink)
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but how do you regualate that? remember these guys go into tranining for a fight so weight is lost, they get in shape. Their walk around weight is very different than their fighting weight.
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Old 12-21-2006, 03:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Very true, but I know of a couple different ways to drop 15 to 20 pounds in under a DAY....that's not your training weight...that's dropping some SERIOUS weight. It is damaging to your body and again, gives this unfair advantage. Joe Stevenson used to walk around at 200lbs. He still to this day fights at 155lbs. I don't think he's anywhere near 200 anymore, but still...you get the idea.


I understand winning, but to walk at 180 and be the proud champ of the 155 and under division is cowardly.
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It defeats the purpose of weight classes to have a guy who is say 200 puonds fighting in the 170 division because he is able to drop 30 pounds of water before the weigh-n and gain it all back by the time the actual fight starts.


Doing the weigh-ins the same day as the fight greatly reduces this practice because guy's would be too depleted during the fight that they would learn its no longer worth it.


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Old 12-21-2006, 03:44 PM   #9 (permalink)
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It defeats the purpose of weight classes to have a guy who is say 200 puonds fighting in the 170 division because he is able to drop 30 pounds of water before the weigh-n and gain it all back by the time the actual fight starts.


Doing the weigh-ins the same day as the fight greatly reduces this practice because guy's would be too depleted during the fight that they would learn its no longer worth it.


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EXACTLY the point I'm trying to make. Wish I knew how to rep ppl because I would rep u right now...
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I understand winning, but to walk at 180 and be the proud champ of the 155 and under division is cowardly.
I don't think its cowardly at all. Some people may walk around at 180, but may be considered a small framed 170. So they drop down and become a big 155. And if you think about it, lets say Fighter #1 walks around @ 180 pounds and spends a week or more dropping down to 155. Fighter #2 walks around @ 160 so he drops 5 pounds overnight. Fighter #2 gets to concentrate on his training for that much longer then fighter #1. Plus The guy who doesn't have to drop a ton of weight should feel "fresher" then I guy Peddling 500 Miles wearing a garbage bag. So if you can drop 20 pounds and fight in a lower weight class then good for you. But its all about were your comfortable at.
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