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post #21 of 45 (permalink) Old 11-06-2009, 10:15 AM
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I'd bet more on one of the hw's having a heart attack from their heart beating too fast.
Seriously? lol These guys are mostly 20-35 years old and in pretty good shape. When was the last time an offensive lineman died of a heart attack? ...

Anyways, I kind of doubt we'll see it. MMA has been around for awhile, so if it hasn't happened yet, there's no reason to believe it will. I think the only way it would happen is with some kind of throw that severely breaks someones neck. The UFC has medical personnel on hand at all times. They would be in the octagon within a minute if something goes terribly wrong. I fully do not expect to see a death in the UFC .. ever.
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it would certainly be sensationalized by the media... you would hope for some balanced coverage touching on deaths in football, and boxing. That said, once MMA is established in a state it will be very dificult to repeal that establishment so i think that ultimately we all just ride it out and the issue dies, when the media gets bored.


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Really don't think that it will come from a punch or kick. I believe it will be a choke that kills. Either held a little long or a crushed larynx. Just my opinion thought.
You should note that most chokes used in MMA are blood chokes in that they cut off the blood flow in the carotid arteries that go directly to the brain thus causing them to fall unconcious. Sometimes the choke can be straight up across the wind pipe but then you have to think a fighter can esily tap and a ref isn't going to let a fighter hold onto a choke forever. Safety measures prevent this kind of thing from happening. So this is probably the least likely way anyone would die in the UFC.

If the death was to be immediate then it would probably come from a head spike or something similar. possibly strikes to the temple but once again the safety measures in place have done a remarkable job thus far.

Also I say "in the UFC" lightly because more than likely the first fighter from the UFC will probably die outside of the ring and after their fighting career has ended, due to injuries sustained whilst competeing.

Someone like Big Nog sadly. But damn I dont even know if cancer could put that man down. Dude is just tough.

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You should note that most chokes used in MMA are blood chokes in that they cut off the blood flow in the carotid arteries that go directly to the brain thus causing them to fall unconcious. Sometimes the choke can be straight up across the wind pipe but then you have to think a fighter can esily tap and a ref isn't going to let a fighter hold onto a choke forever. Safety measures prevent this kind of thing from happening. So this is probably the least likely way anyone would die in the UFC.

If the death was to be immediate then it would probably come from a head spike or something similar. possibly strikes to the temple but once again the safety measures in place have done a remarkable job thus far.

Also I say "in the UFC" lightly because more than likely the first fighter from the UFC will probably die outside of the ring and after their fighting career has ended, due to injuries sustained whilst competeing.

Someone like Big Nog sadly. But damn I dont even know if cancer could put that man down. Dude is just tough.
Quoted for truth and insight. If caution on the part of officials causes a questionable stoppage here and there, so be it.


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The 'carry on until the ref pulls you off' rule should be changed IMHO,I think that's asking for trouble personnaly.



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Those are the commercial deaths only and just in the US. If you factor in civilians and other countries, there are well over 300 deaths per year. From fishing.
Fishing is one of the most dangerous occupations in the World,very few die whilst fishing recreationaly (inshore). It's the Trawlermen in the deep water with the bad weather who are lost at sea.
I have no Idea what the world wide 'Sea losses' are but i'm willing to bet it's a damn site more than 300 per year,1000's probably.
I regular go 15miles into the North Sea in a Cobble boat,it's great in good weather but when it starts to Blow!! Scary stuff just to get back to shore....

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I don't know what a trawler or cobble boat is, despite watching the wildly popular (here in the US) show Deadliest Catch.

This thread is giving me horrible visions of Apollo Creed getting beaten to death by Ivan Drago.


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i kinda lean towards that first death happening in a smaller show. obviously there has already been one death outside the ring which was attributed to a sanctioned fight (forget the guy's name) but yeah... with the vast majority of MMA fights happening outside the UFC, and with the possibility of substandard medical and enforcement at a number of those events... i think that's where we'll see it.

People break bones... not that hard to imagine someone breaking their neck or cracking their head open given the right circumstances.


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I don't know what a trawler or cobble boat is
A trawler is your Workhorse of the fishing fleet,these thing's **** the sea pulling anything and everything up.They are multi-man crewed (depending on the size)they fish offshore in deep waters,very dangerous.


A Cobble boat is a small Inshore boat historically used in the North East of England.The hull is the same design as a Norse Longship so you can launch them from the Beaches.Beautiful little boats what handle rough sea well,they used to be sail powered but we use inboard engines now .


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Maybe I am being a little over dramatic, but would the UFC recover from a death? (especially a high profile fighter)
Would they have to add further to the rulebook to stop being banned again?
No. They wouldn't.

Apart from the fact that I don't think "it has to happen sooner or later" it's clear from the regulation of the sport that MMA (even with one death) is still safer than boxing, even safer than football or ice hockey.

Still, the reason we're not going to see a death in MMA for a long time has everything to do with the fear that we're going to. Refs jump in to prevent fights out of fear that someone is going to be seriously injured.

That willingness to step in makes it far safer. When we start to see that fear dissipate, that's when I'll start to be worried about a potential death, but we're not there yet.



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because the state is always looking for a good crisis to take more of our freedoms away....
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