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Old 12-24-2006, 07:37 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I am sorry ...little booze at xmas time... anyway.... "Tank vs Syvia lmfao..tim would be forced to actually fight.."
I'd pay to see that...perfect post... merry xmas...go Chuck
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Old 12-24-2006, 11:19 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Lol Fedor made over a million from Pride from the Coleman Fight. 400 000 is actually a big cut in pay for him.
whoops heh heh.. a mil a fight, who'd have thunk.
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Old 12-24-2006, 11:39 AM   #23 (permalink)
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hunt vs sylvia
fedor vs sylvia
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i would love to see that ahole fight anyone of these guys but obviously going to only be vera, whose gonnae kick his ass
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Old 12-24-2006, 10:41 PM   #24 (permalink)
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1) Lidel vs. W.Silva
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3) Anybody kicking Tim "i sh*t my pants" Sylvia's a**.
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Old 12-25-2006, 12:45 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I agree.. Royce was awesome back in the day but that's because he had other fighters ignorance on his side. I respect him for building the sport but the reason for his winning the early fights is because hardly any of the fighters knew of jiu-jitsu. A lot (but not all) of the fighters in those days were still playing around with that worthless tae-kwon-do / karate crap that's only good in movies, or worse, were lumbering technique-less fist-swingers. Today every serious mma fighter trains in jiu-jitsu and knows how to defend against it.. you have to be really athletic and good at it to win with just that nowadays. Even if Royce were in his prime today, he'd get killed in the UFCs welterweight division.
anyway back to the main topic, here's the superfights i hope to see:

Liddell / Wanderlei (pleeease happen!)
CroCop / Sylvia
Arlovski / Vera
Couture / Ortiz II (couture said wants it, if..)
Fedor vs The Predator
taekwon do karate crap that only works in movies? Two of the UFC champions are karate practitioners.
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Yeah, but how often do either of them use it? Not much, they started w/ karate but soon figured out there's more effective disciplines out there. Somebody that only knew karate would get mauled.
Lol someone that only knew JJ would get mauled to look what happened to Gracie when he fought Hughes.
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Old 12-25-2006, 09:16 PM   #27 (permalink)
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taekwon do karate crap that only works in movies? Two of the UFC champions are karate practitioners.
Just curious, but which ones? Because, like nickman9000 said, I doubt they really use much of it; as opposed to say jiu-jitsu or Muay Thai/Kickboxing guys who use primarily their main discipline. Just because someone trained in a discipline doesn't mean it's the reason for their success. I myself trained in TKD up to green belt in my teen years until I realized it was worthless in a real (or close to real, like MMA) fight. So if I do good in a fight, it doesn't say $hit for TKD.
Personally have no exp. with Karate so I'm willing to admit I *might* be wrong about that. At first glance though, it seems just as flashy and impractical as TKD though so I'm prob right.
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Old 12-25-2006, 09:21 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Lol someone that only knew JJ would get mauled to look what happened to Gracie when he fought Hughes.
Jiu Jitsu is only ineffective by itself when your opponent is skilled in it as well and knows how to defend it (as all modern MMA fighters do). Against anyone else, it's devastating.. watch that same Royce Gracie in the 1st 3 UFCs if you doubt it.

Karate and TKD are ineffective against anyone period. Or for that matter Aikido.

And before anyone goes off on me for trashing these disciplines, let me say that they are great as sport and exercise, and for building discipline, responsibility and coordination. I just think some people see them as these awesome killer styles, and that will lead to them getting their butt kicked.

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Old 12-25-2006, 10:39 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Yeah, but how often do either of them use it? Not much, they started w/ karate but soon figured out there's more effective disciplines out there. Somebody that only knew karate would get mauled.
obviously you know nothing about karate. St.Pierre fighting style is Kyokoshin Karate if you watch him fight its obvious that hes a kyokoshin practitioner. All his kicks and all of his strikes are all kyokoshin. He kept training in kyokoshin karate until the time his master died and thats when he started training with renzo gracie.

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Yeah, but how often do either of them use it? Not much, they started w/ karate but soon figured out there's more effective disciplines out there. Somebody that only knew karate would get mauled.
GSP is kyokoshin and Chuck Lidell is Koei Kan

They both attribute their success to their karate backrounds because Chuck has Koei Kan tatooed on the side of his head. That kanji you always see says koei kan karate do. He also has kenpo tatooed on his left arm because he trained in kempo as well. He uses those fighting styles when he fights thats why he has a good kicking backround.

YouTube - Daido juku MMA karate knockdown (complete)

thats kyokoshin karate tell me that isnt how gsp fights? you can kiss my ass if you think thats muay thai because thats what real karate looks like not the wholesale karate mart systems that most people train under. This is real hard japanese karate. To the guy that said they dont use their karate you obviously dont know much about karate.

Thats also where GSP originally learned where to ground fight because alot of these people attribute that to cross training but real japanese karate teaches ground fighting as part of the curriculum. Thats why in that video the people know how to do arm bars. They didnt cross train thats all karate.
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Old 12-25-2006, 10:53 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Jiu Jitsu is only ineffective by itself when your opponent is skilled in it as well and knows how to defend it (as all modern MMA fighters do). Against anyone else, it's devastating.. watch that same Royce Gracie in the 1st 3 UFCs if you doubt it.

Karate and TKD are ineffective against anyone period. Or for that matter Aikido.

And before anyone goes off on me for trashing these disciplines, let me say that they are great as sport and exercise, and for building discipline, responsibility and coordination. I just think some people see them as these awesome killer styles, and that will lead to them getting their butt kicked.
what do you think this stuff was derrived for originally? this stuff wasnt to be used in the ring if a mma fighter fought a true karate practitioner they would lose. Some of the techniques they use arent allowed in mma. There are techniques for ripping ears, eye gauging, various throat shots etc that arent allowed in mma. Karate is a system of dirty fighting there are no rules.

Look up brian frost he has a undefeated record in thailand for kick boxing he trained under the founder of koei kan and just went over there and beat the crap out of some of the best thai boxers in thailand before saying ok screw this crap. look up Jack Sabat who trained chuck lidel.

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I think Liddell started w/ Kenpo karate. As for Kenpo techniques that work, how about the ol'thumb in the eye? Thats Kenpo all the way. The only TKD technique I've seen work is the spinning wheel kick(or something like that) ala Bonnar or David Loiseau. Gotta give Rogan credit for that one.
he started in koei kan

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