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Old 11-15-2009, 12:57 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Wow. The only reason he is fighting these guys is because he has already completely tooled all of the top WW fighters. But really, what do you want? Gsp just have a scheduled rotation fighting the same fighters over and over again. Do you want him to destroy Fitch and Alves and Koscheck 50 times? Or do you want him to fight as many people as he can.

This doesn't take away from him as a fighter. If you think that his record is padded in anyway shape or form then you have no idea about mma or the ufc. He has beaten the best of the best already.

Who else is left to fight? Jake Shields? If he came to the UFC it would be the same old story. GSP has beaten Mayhem Miller already. So who is left outside of the UFC?

The only reason GSP is fighting these people is because he has already beaten all of the top fighters.
You people are missing a couple of points here..

1.) inter org bouts would help sitos right here. If the promotions where behind the fighters and not in front then all across the boards we would legit rankings and bouts with no arguements.Dana holds this back $
2.) Someone tell me how fitch is not deserving of a rematch?

Jus because a fighter has beaten the top 5 doesnt mean that top five isnt deserving of a rematch . If they go back post a good win or 2 then they deserve another shot no if an buts about it. You dont jus dip into fighters ranked 7-10 (where i c hardy) and pick them cause its a fresh face when there hasnt been any rematches.
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Dumb huh.. Newb noob right.. Ok lets think about this.. Fitch fought GSP 3 bouts ago .. They went 5 rds for a decision and got fight of the night. On so many mma rankings not jus one they have Fitch as ranked no1 contender. Im saying why the hell isnt he fighting him again.. A deserving contender.. Urijah Faber lost came back beat Pulver again then got another shot.. Fitch beat to good fighters and still hes sitting on the back burner.. And they give Hardy a title shot.. lol.. Please.. New face or not.. Id rather watch a match that could go either way for 5 rds then a 1sided slaughter.. Hardy needs to fight a top5 contender before hes a legit for a title shot. Swick was not a legit contender for a title shot either.
Problem with a second Fitch fight that while I agree it would be better than GSP/Hardy, really did anyone think Fitch was ever in control of that fight? Don't let the fact it went 5 rounds fool you into thinking it was anything less than a convincing win.
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You people are missing a couple of points here..

1.) inter org bouts would help sitos right here. If the promotions where behind the fighters and not in front then all across the boards we would legit rankings and bouts with no arguements.Dana holds this back $
2.) Someone tell me how fitch is not deserving of a rematch?

Jus because a fighter has beaten the top 5 doesnt mean that top five isnt deserving of a rematch . If they go back post a good win or 2 then they deserve another shot no if an buts about it. You dont jus dip into fighters ranked 7-10 (where i c hardy) and pick them cause its a fresh face when there hasnt been any rematches.

again, you give the fans what they want to see, that is what has made the UFC so successful and NOBODY besides you (and my cousin is a HUGE fitch fan, bet $400 with me vs GSP and even he doesnt want a rematch he knows fitch is outclassed badly). On top of that his LnP style wins arent impressing ppl, that doesnt draw fans. That's what its about, exciting fights fans wanna see against two skilled guys and Hardy is skilled, no matter what you are trying to take away from him. Fitch will get his chance again, no doubt, keep winning and get a impressive win over another top 5 or 7 guy there will be no choice, but until then, fans dont wanna see it and his wins arent impressive enough to generate a buzz. Thats just how it is.

As Toxic said above... it was a DOMINATING WIN for GSP, Fitch never had anything substantial done in that fight that he can come into another fight with confidence or fans can feel he has a chance. If anything its WORSE then getting KO'd in the 1st round. What GSP does is gives you 5 rounds of beatings where you dont win a round and never threaten and basically makes it very clear you dont stand a chance. I rather a rematch between a flash KO then a rematch from 5 round DOMINATION 5-0 on score cards on guy looking like he wasnt in a fight and the other guy looking like he got jumped by 5 guys.

Look at the title of your post... look at his last 3 fights.... Alves, Penn, Fitch.... tell me thats not utterly ridiculous?? Maybe you mean HE IS GOING TO FIGHT BUMS?? Maybe you dont know wth you mean, idk, but this is prob the sillyest thread ever made, gratz!!

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Hardy should decline the fight,tell Dana to feed someone else to GSP.But who could he fight who he hasnt already beaten?
that would be the stupidest move hardy could make turn down a shot at the title is that what serra should have done as well
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that would be the stupidest move hardy could make turn down a shot at the title is that what serra should have done as well
I never said he should have turned it down.. that would be some dumb shit..

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Problem with a second Fitch fight that while I agree it would be better than GSP/Hardy, really did anyone think Fitch was ever in control of that fight? Don't let the fact it went 5 rounds fool you into thinking it was anything less than a convincing win.
He won and mentally ko'd Fitch. But I c it like Fitch could possibly beat gsp . And with 2 wins since that lost and being ranked no1 contender I dont know why hes not getting the shot. Kind of like how he got shitted on for not jumping to the video game contract drama.
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again, you give the fans what they want to see, that is what has made the UFC so successful and NOBODY besides you (and my cousin is a HUGE fitch fan, bet $400 with me vs GSP and even he doesnt want a rematch he knows fitch is outclassed badly). On top of that his LnP style wins arent impressing ppl, that doesnt draw fans. That's what its about, exciting fights fans wanna see against two skilled guys and Hardy is skilled, no matter what you are trying to take away from him. Fitch will get his chance again, no doubt, keep winning and get a impressive win over another top 5 or 7 guy there will be no choice, but until then, fans dont wanna see it and his wins arent impressive enough to generate a buzz. Thats just how it is.

As Toxic said above... it was a DOMINATING WIN for GSP, Fitch never had anything substantial done in that fight that he can come into another fight with confidence or fans can feel he has a chance. If anything its WORSE then getting KO'd in the 1st round. What GSP does is gives you 5 rounds of beatings where you dont win a round and never threaten and basically makes it very clear you dont stand a chance. I rather a rematch between a flash KO then a rematch from 5 round DOMINATION 5-0 on score cards on guy looking like he wasnt in a fight and the other guy looking like he got jumped by 5 guys.

Look at the title of your post... look at his last 3 fights.... Alves, Penn, Fitch.... tell me thats not utterly ridiculous?? Maybe you mean HE IS GOING TO FIGHT BUMS?? Maybe you dont know wth you mean, idk, but this is prob the sillyest thread ever made, gratz!!
HARDY IS A B-LEVEL fighter nothing more.. The fight will not be exciting at all. So why not fall back to the rankings?
Exactly he fought fitch kos pen alves and NOW HARDY? WTF.. Jus move the **** on with ur lame ass closing sentenses. And dont bother posting in my threads.. I wouldnt want your feelings to get hurt again.
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HARDY IS A B-LEVEL fighter nothing more.. The fight will not be exciting at all. So why not fall back to the rankings?
Brett Rogers was a b level fighter nothing more. It happens because it happens, Strikeforce doesnt have many HWs, UFC has alot of WWs but the top guys GSP has all destroyed, make no doubt about it, NONE of those fights were close and fans dont want to see it again. Like i said, its about giving fans exciting fights they wanna see. I guarantee more ppl will want to see Hardy vs GSP then GSP vs Fitch two. Its not set in stone that Hardy gets the title shot btw, you know how the UFC is, if Rumble suddenly drops Kos in the 1st round... things might change.. wins mean alot, IMPRESSIVE wins more mean. They generate a buzz and a following, lets be honest, Fitch's style doesnt lend itself to him being popular among anybody other then the hardcore fans, he is pretty boring tbh and thats a big part of why. If Fitch wants to make a statement he would do well by Ko'ing or subbing a big name or being generally overall a more exciting fighter. But he cna stay the way he is and get a rematch, it will jsut take longer.

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Brett Rogers was a b level fighter nothing more. It happens because it happens, Strikeforce doesnt have many HWs, UFC has alot of WWs but the top guys GSP has all destroyed, make no doubt about it, NONE of those fights were close and fans dont want to see it again. Like i said, its about giving fans exciting fights they wanna see. I guarantee more ppl will want to see Hardy vs GSP then GSP vs Fitch two. Its not set in stone that Hardy gets the title shot btw, you know how the UFC is, if Rumble suddenly drops Kos in the 1st round... things might change.. wins mean alot, IMPRESSIVE wins more mean. They generate a buzz and a following, lets be honest, Fitch's style doesnt lend itself to him being popular among anybody other then the hardcore fans, he is pretty boring tbh and thats a big part of why. If Fitch wants to make a statement he would do well by Ko'ing or subbing a big name or being generally overall a more exciting fighter. But he cna stay the way he is and get a rematch, it will jsut take longer.
Fedor jus came to Strikeforce. So he had to fight there gatekeeper. And he did. Hardy did not jus come to the ufc. hes been there. But Hardy is getting a title shot without beating a top 5 contender when I feel Fitch is deserving.
People use to say there was no way Machida would ever be champ or even come close to headlining a ufc card because he was so boring and his stylre wasnt entertaining. Randy seems to still be headlining ..Im not trying to hear any excuse for fitch not having his deserving bout. Its a rant thread and thats part of my rant.

Now IM off of here to go play some call of duty.. Ill be back later to repeat myself if nec.
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Fedor jus came to Strikeforce. So he had to fight there gatekeeper. And he did. Hardy did not jus come to the ufc. hes been there. But Hardy is getting a title shot without beating a top 5 contender when I feel Fitch is deserving.
People use to say there was no way Machida would ever be champ or even come close to headlining a ufc card because he was so boring and his stylre wasnt entertaining. Randy seems to still be headlining ..Im not trying to hear any excuse for fitch not having his deserving bout. Its a rant thread and thats part of my rant.

Now IM off of here to go play some call of duty.. Ill be back later to repeat myself if nec.
Like i said, a big IMPRESSIVE win over a top 10 guy (like Machida did vs T. Silva) can do that... but Machida didnt already get his ass owned for 5 rounds by Rashad before he faced him, bad comparison, and ill pwn you at COD MW2 on PS3, SN is Ugo_Ferst get at me!!
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