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Old 11-15-2009, 02:19 PM   #31 (permalink)
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What? Belfort fought at both Affliction cards.
Yeah and Belfort's reason wasn't "I'm scared and rusty," it was "we're friends/training partners and I need some time."


GSP's win list is easily the top 3 most impressive who's who list in MMA. He's beaten basically everyone in his division besides Shields, Mayhem, Diaz, and... I dunno, that's basically it.
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Old 11-15-2009, 02:30 PM   #32 (permalink)
 
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Mayhem is a MW but GSP beat him when he was a WW to, there are only really Shields and Diaz who an hold any argument as threats and I doubt either has a chance.
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Old 11-15-2009, 02:50 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Dan Hardy aint some newcomer. MMA goes further than the boundaries of UFC and Hardy has been doing this for a while and he's come in to the UFC and shot up the ladder.

He is by no meas a bum, and stands a (very small) chance against GSP. You just have to accept that GSP is amongst the top pound-for-pound fighters in the world, pretty much everyone who comes up againt hi is going to resemble a bum.
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Old 11-15-2009, 03:49 PM   #34 (permalink)
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No disrespect to Hardy... but GSP is going to "wipe" the floor with Hardy. GSP has beaten the best and is in the same position that Anderson Silva was in last year.

Silva cleared the MW division, which led to Silva moving up to LHW. Bouncing back and fourth, its pretty clear that their is no-threat to Silva's belt in the MW division. I mean, once he beats Belfort... then what???? Back to LHW.

Once GSP beats Hardy... who will be next?? Anthony Johnson? Jon Fitch?? Koscheck? .... He does not need to prove anything in the WW division anymore.

I say GSP takes the "risk" and moves up in weight. GSP (vs) Bisping or Marquardt would be good.
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Old 11-15-2009, 04:10 PM   #35 (permalink)
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This has to be one of the stupidest threads I've ever read, I'm surprised it's coming from an established member and not some noob with two posts.

GSP has beaten everyone in the top WW top 10 besides Shields and Hardy. Maybe the UFC will sign shields, but not having ONE top 10 fighter is no reason to whine about. They just gave him the #2 (Fitch), #3 (Alves), #4 (Koscheck), #5 (Hughes) Welterweights, and #1 LW/#4 p4p fighter (BJ) in the world for his last 6 fights!!!! Is this thread supposed to be ironic? If anything GSP has had the toughest fight resume of any fighter in two years, in the history of mma. Which other fighter has fought and beaten 5 top 5 fighters in 2 years?? Oh that's right NO ONE. I could see this argument against Anderson being fed guys like Cote and Leites, or Fedor fighting Rogers/HMC/Hunt, but GSP? If you feel the need to whine, at least pick something remotely logical.

Hardy is the best fight left for GSP at the moment, he is a legit top 10 WW after beating Swick and being on a 7 win streak (12, if you disregard the DQ to Yoshida), and 4-0 in the UFC against guys like Marcus Davis, Swick and Gono. Besides him and shields, there is no WW left. Only a superfight with Anderson. It's not the UFCs fault GSP is so good.
Totally agree with you, but i don't think GSP will fight Hardy. I still don't think he deserves a title shot. He didn't beat any top WW. A better matchup would be GSP - Fitch or GSP - winner of Koscheck/Rumble.
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I think you guys need to give Hardy a bit more credit.

He has the mentality of a champion even if he isn't quite ready yet, it's definitely not certain that GSP would beat him. We've all seen GSP rocked in the stand up by quite a few guys and Hardy's stand up is pretty good from what we've seen. Yeah we all know GSP will probably take him down with ease and pound him out, but Hardy has a genuine chance of taking him out standing up.

I am British though, so it's a bit biased, but that's my 0.02.

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He is by no meas a bum, and stands a (very small) chance against GSP. You just have to accept that GSP is amongst the top pound-for-pound fighters in the world, pretty much everyone who comes up againt hi is going to resemble a bum.
Exactly this as well ^

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This has to be one of the stupidest threads I've ever read, I'm surprised it's coming from an established member and not some noob with two posts.

GSP has beaten everyone in the top WW top 10 besides Shields and Hardy. Maybe the UFC will sign shields, but not having ONE top 10 fighter is no reason to whine about. They just gave him the #2 (Fitch), #3 (Alves), #4 (Koscheck), #5 (Hughes) Welterweights, and #1 LW/#4 p4p fighter (BJ) in the world for his last 6 fights!!!! Is this thread supposed to be ironic? If anything GSP has had the toughest fight resume of any fighter in two years, in the history of mma. Which other fighter has fought and beaten 5 top 5 fighters in 2 years?? Oh that's right NO ONE. I could see this argument against Anderson being fed guys like Cote and Leites, or Fedor fighting Rogers/HMC/Hunt, but GSP? If you feel the need to whine, at least pick something remotely logical.

Hardy is the best fight left for GSP at the moment, he is a legit top 10 WW after beating Swick and being on a 7 win streak (12, if you disregard the DQ to Yoshida), and 4-0 in the UFC against guys like Marcus Davis, Swick and Gono. Besides him and shields, there is no WW left. Only a superfight with Anderson. It's not the UFCs fault GSP is so good.
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Everyone posting in this thread keeps claiming the same line to justify the bout. " he has beaten everyone"

Fitch is a long deserving contender. They went 5 rds last time got fight of the night and gsp wasnt able to finish him.. I honestly think jus as Hughes was able to beat gsp the first time because mentally gsp let him the same happened to fitch .. Fitch can beat gsp or give him a damn good running for it.. Id rather see that then gsp vs hardy.. Also a bout between Shields and gsp would kick ass to actually see where jake is sitting these days since he is in the top 5.
Good idea! Maybe he can alternate between fighting Fitch and Alves every 3 months and keep beating them. Let's not let anyone else have a shot. It's ok though because it's all Dana's fault just like global warming. Seriously this is a garbage thread. I'd neg you if you weren't a gold.
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Old 11-15-2009, 06:38 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I say they shake the Welterweight division up a bit by putting GSP vs 2 low tier fighters at the same time to give him a challenge!!

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Old 11-15-2009, 07:26 PM   #39 (permalink)
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C'mon now Fitch had nothing on GSP the 1st time and let's be real:

Wins over Swick and Davis >> wins over Gono and Paulo

Id much rather see a new (deserving) 170er get his shot at GSP and get dominated than seeing Fitch get tooled for 5 rds again.

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Old 11-15-2009, 07:34 PM   #40 (permalink)
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its ironic that you cling to Fedors sack and his last 3 wins are over guys that dropped like bricks outta the rankings, then you question GSP when the guys he has beaten are still going on to beat everybody else... lol yea obv GSP not gonna tool Fitch again... cuz Fitch looked so convincing taking that beatdown for 5 rounds and never having GSP in anything close to trouble, im sure it wil all change around soon for him... same for Alves... I think the UFC is doing the right thing, letting some new blood get in, and believe me ANYBODY GSP FACES WILL BE SEEN AS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO WIN.... UNTIL THE CHALLENGER ACTUALLY DOES.... nobody is giving ANYBODY ON THE PLANET a chance to beat GSP, so there will always be noobs like you that will come and say "this isnt right" but its utterly foolish and mind blowing. The guys George beats havent disappeared, infact most go on win streaks after losing to him, but none of them gave GSP a test whatsoever. But you dont know if Dan Hardy will, styles make fights and so do the fighters. I can say with certainty that GSP would beat fitch or alves again, im pretty sure he can beat Hardy but i havent seen it, and until i do its just an OPINION.

btw good luck marketing fitch vs GSP dos... im sure ppl will just go crazy when they hear that superfight coming up.... im sure it will be easy to hype what a great idea!!!! Lets waste main events on fights ppl dont wanna see!! At least Hardy will bring his fanbase with him and we really dont know what will happen between the two til it does. I have a strong feeling GSP will dismantle him, but so what?? Unless he finishes him its nothing he didnt do to Fitch or Alves or Penn or Hughes or Kos or whatever guy you think is worthy of fighting him again.
I think any fight involving GSP would be a huge draw at this point.
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