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post #101 of 140 (permalink) Old 11-18-2009, 07:14 PM
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What's wrong with doing it the "safe route" and fighting smart?

Didn't AS (your favorite fighter) take the safe route when he avoided the ground with Thales Leites for 25mn and tried to keep it standing for as long as he could?

Why would GSP "stand and bang" with arguably the best striker in the division when AS refused to go to the ground with an opponent who has merely good BJJ?
Spot on. My point exactly. U have a plus from me.
What would have happened is Silva would have fought Leites on the ground and lost. Or GSP would have kept the fight with Alves on the feet and lost?
I think, after that, a lot o people would have said they were stupid for not using their advantages (or something like that).

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post #102 of 140 (permalink) Old 11-18-2009, 07:17 PM
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I don't see Hardy being able to last any more than 3 rounds with GSP. Hardy is a very strong fighter, but doesn't have much technical skills and seems more like a brawler. GSP will dismantle him and retain his belt.
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What's wrong with doing it the "safe route" and fighting smart?

Didn't AS (your favorite fighter) take the safe route when he avoided the ground with Thales Leites for 25mn and tried to keep it standing for as long as he could?

Why would GSP "stand and bang" with arguably the best striker in the division when AS refused to go to the ground with an opponent who has merely good BJJ?
Like I said, chico, there is nothing wrong with taking the safe route. I applaud GSP for doing whatever necessary to win the fight. I'm just saying all the people that are crying over the criticism just need to get over it because it's just the truth.

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Although I proudly hug GSP's testicles, and am rather sure he will dismantle Hardy's soul...GSP better be careful of Hardy's counter-punching because it is no joke.

GSP sets his takedowns up well will his standup obviously but i'll be watching for Hardy to try and time one with a knee or left hook. If he can't then I don't see him threatening GSP in any other way.

Dan will probably be on his back most of this fight, but like the last few guys GSP has fought, Hardy can take shots well and is a tough dude.

I in advance say to his haters - if GSP does win a decision don't cry because he didn't finish because Hardy has 30 MMA fights and has never been KO or TKO'd.

My prediction...GSP by rear-naked round 4
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Although I proudly hug GSP's testicles, and am rather sure he will dismantle Hardy's soul...GSP better be careful of Hardy's counter-punching because it is no joke.

GSP sets his takedowns up well will his standup obviously but i'll be watching for Hardy to try and time one with a knee or left hook. If he can't then I don't see him threatening GSP in any other way.

Dan will probably be on his back most of this fight, but like the last few guys GSP has fought, Hardy can take shots well and is a tough dude.

I in advance say to his haters - if GSP does win a decision don't cry because he didn't finish because Hardy has 30 MMA fights and has never been KO or TKO'd.

My prediction...GSP by rear-naked round 4
This would be a fantastic outcome, and I didn't know that about Hardy's record. People were talking like he was a nobody.

Thank you for an insightful post, and I salute you, fellow GSP testicle-hugger.


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That fight and its resulting title fight represents everything that's wrong with the UFC. FOR GOD SAKE'S START RANKING YOUR FIGHTERS! Swick had a UFC record of 13 - 0 going into that fight. Hardy had a UFC record of 3 - 0. IMHO this matchup was an insult to Swick (I know that sounds ridiculous in hindsight - but we say it all the time - "Anything can happen in a fight" well, "anything" did happen this time - Hardy won). To say that whoever won that fight was deserving of a title shot is just dumb. The UFC constantly shoots itself in the foot by doing this. The same thing happened when they matched up Huerta vs. Kenflo - Huerta lost and we ended up with a challenger who never should have had a shot at BJ. Way to go guys....way to go. Even though he lost - I'd still rather see Mike Swick vs. GSP than Hardy vs. GSP. Now that can't happen.
I could have sworn I heard him almost crying that Okami wwas too strong after Round 1 in their fight
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I could have sworn I heard him almost crying that Okami wwas too strong after Round 1 in their fight
haha I noticed that too. Thought maybe I didn't know my facts. Even so, between his winning streaks, he should have gotten a title shot. Whether it was before or after his loss to Yushin.
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haha I noticed that too. Thought maybe I didn't know my facts. Even so, between his winning streaks, he should have gotten a title shot. Whether it was before or after his loss to Yushin.
I never really rated Swick. I doubt he could beat Fitch, Alves, Koscheck or Diego when he was at 170.
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Swick got exposed against Hardy. I think he would've had a better chance against Kampmann, but even that would've been a tough fight for him. Look let's face it, unless the fight is held in England Hardy is screwed, he hasn't won a fight on North American soil which says something about his character. GSP will gladly take him on in Europe nonetheless and still take him out in the 3rd-4th rd. due to tapout by way of too much Fleur-de-lis.
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post #110 of 140 (permalink) Old 11-19-2009, 12:29 AM
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I don't mind hearing GSP criticized for being less reckless than before, if indeed that makes him less entertaining to those doing the criticizing.

What I do mind is hearing him criticized for "not finishing fights," partly because it's unfair and partly because it's ridiculous.

Does anyone really believe that, if he was still fighting the likes of Frank Trigg and Sean Sherk, that he wouldn't finish them?
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