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AlphaDawg · 11-23-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex_DeLarge

Different circumstances. As of right now...like...now, Dan Hardy deserves it more than any other welterweight now.

Lol at a lot of Alve's wins ending in devestating fashion. Yeah, losing a fight to Karo until one knee, winning by cut against Lytle, beating a tiresome Matt Hughes coming in like 6 pounds overweight, and decision (no finish) against Kosheck. Devestating finishing indeed. Sorry, but Anderson Silva finishes people in devestating fashion. Fedor finishes people in devestating fashion. BJ Penn finishes people in devestating fashion. Please don't put Thiago Alves in the same limelight.

And he didn't squeek out a win against Davis. He won fairly decisively.

lol at your reasoning. If you read what I said, I said "ending in devastating fashion." While I admit the Lytle win wasn't impressive, all of his other TKO/KOs did END devastatingly. And clearly a decision over Koscheck isn't ending in devastating fashion. I never said it was, I just said he beat Koscheck. And yes he did "squeak" out a decision as it was a split decision. Not only that but I've heard arguments that Davis should have won. I don't feel that way but by no means did Hardy win decisively. Had it been "decisively" he would of won by unanimous decison now wouldn't he?

**khoveraki** · 11-23-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaDawg

lol at your reasoning. If you read what I said, I said "ending in devastating fashion." While I admit the Lytle win wasn't impressive, all of his other TKO/KOs did END devastatingly. And clearly a decision over Koscheck isn't ending in devastating fashion. I never said it was, I just said he beat Koscheck. And yes he did "squeak" out a decision as it was a split decision. Not only that but I've heard arguments that Davis should have won. I don't feel that way but by no means did Hardy win decisively. Had it been "decisively" he would of won by unanimous decison now wouldn't he?

Not to mention Koscheck is INSANELY hard to finish, but Alves dominated him in that matchup. Koscheck probably didn't walk for weeks.

And Lytle is another guy who's insanely hard to finish. But you watch the Hughes fight and Hughes is outclassed everywhere. There's a reason Alves is the #3 WW, he's really come into his own now.

IMO Hardy gets stomped by the top 5 guys, and he didn't look hot against Swick who looked way slower than usual. Koscheck would DEFINITELY crush Hardy, Rumble would probably crush Hardy, Alves and Fitch would eat him alive, nevermind what GSP is going to do to him. It'll probably be criminal the way he gets butchered.

**edlavis88** · 11-23-2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaDawg

Thiago Alves had to beat Matt Hughes, Chris Lytle, Josh Koscheck, Karo Parisyan and many others before given a title shot. He had a 7 win-streak. Alot of his wins ending in devastating fashion.

John Fitch had to have an 8 win-streak, with wins over Thiago Alves and Diego Sanchez, before he was given a title shot.

How in god's name has Hardy earned his by beating a nobody, barely squeaking out a decision against Marcus Davis and then winning another decision over Mike Swick?

Fair point, but Hughes, Daley, Condit, Serra and Sherk all have fights lined up, Sanchez has Penn and a fight with Alves (coming off the back of a failed title shot) would be a bit pointless at this point in time, so Hardy doesn't have the opportunity to fight these guys atm. He has beaten two top 10-15 fighters and no-one is really standing out as a run away number 1 contender, i mean before Hardy there was talk of Kampmann getting a title shot ffs!!
Personally i would have liked to see Hardy fight someone like Yoshida or even Koscheck before getting a title shot but give him credit, he dominated Swick and has put himself in the position to get a title shot, so why all the complaining?

AlphaDawg · 11-23-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by edlavis88

Fair point, but Hughes, Daley, Condit, Serra and Sherk all have fights lined up, Sanchez has Penn and a fight with Alves (coming off the back of a failed title shot) would be a bit pointless at this point in time, so Hardy doesn't have the opportunity to fight these guys atm. He has beaten two top 10-15 fighters and no-one is really standing out as a run away number 1 contender, i mean before Hardy there was talk of Kampmann getting a title shot ffs!!
Personally i would have liked to see Hardy fight someone like Yoshida or even Koscheck before getting a title shot but give him credit, he dominated Swick and has put himself in the position to get a title shot, so why all the complaining?

Don't get me wrong, he did very well against Mike Swick. It's just all the other people who have gotten a shot at GSP have worked so much harder to get their shot than this Dan Hardy fellow. I understand that there's nobody else but I'd much rather wait a few months to find a SOLID contender instead of just feeding a fighter, who has no right to be in title contention, to GSP. If he fights and beats either Alves/Fitch/Kos/Daley, I'll stop complaining but I doubt i'll ever see that happen.

**edlavis88** · 11-23-2009, 04:20 PM

If Hardy gets his ass handed to him then fair enough but you can't have GSP not defending for aaaages because the contenders aren't good enough! Alves and Fitch have had shots, Hughes and Sherk aren't exactly looking invincable, and with Daley and Condit you have the same problem that they haven't beaten any top 5 fighters either, so that just leaves Kos. This shot gives Hardy the chance to step up, as far as i can see no harm can come from giving him the shot!

**Hawk** · 11-23-2009, 04:24 PM

GSP Will Destroy Hardy

**Soojooko** · 11-23-2009, 05:27 PM

God, I hope Hardy knocks him the fu*k out. I tire of these seemingly invincible title holders. I'll say this much for Hardy, he's a hard bastard. Excuse the pun. Has he ever so much as wobbled? I'm really interested in seeing his limit for punishment. GSP will certainly show us.

Ansem · 11-23-2009, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Deftsound

Anytime GSP is fighting imo its worth buying. That being said, i don't like dan hardy but i think it would be worth it to see gsp knock his gayass mohawk off...

Actually most of gsp's fights are quite boring and whens the last time he knocked someone out? hmm .... thats right never. Yeah hes a great fighter though and best of all he's Canadian

im sure he'll easily ground and pound Dan hardy but trust me its not gonna be that exciting.