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If Hardy can catch him flush, we seen what happened with Serra...

It's not like you can condition you chin like you can your shins
If Alves couldn't do it, no way are we seeing him get 'Serra'd' again. That loss was good for GSP.

I think he'll sub Hardy within 3 rounds.






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Again, Anthony Johnson hasen't beaten the levelcompetition that Hardy has in the UFC. Even if Johnson beats Koscheck, he still wouldn't deserve it over Hardy.
How so

markam = fioravanti
swick = Koscheck
Gono = yoshida (these days)
and then you have davis who is a TUFer so afraid of real competition that he specifically asked to fight on all the overseas cards..Which has you know doesnt really have the best of the best..Kevin burns could probably flourish in that environment..

If you hold a torch for hardy then so be it but dont try and make out the fighters he has beaten are head and shoulders above johnson's when they are interchangeable..If johnson beats Kos there really is no differece between the 2
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If Alves couldn't do it, no way are we seeing him get 'Serra'd' again. That loss was good for GSP.

I think he'll sub Hardy within 3 rounds.
But bad for MMA unfortunately

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Yes, there is a difference. Markham is better than Luigi and Johnson hasen't beaten Koscheck yet.

Dude, Marcus Davis is more than just a TUFer. If you've seen my other posts you know that I do not like Marcus Davis at all but he's got some good stand-up skills. You can't ignore the guy on Hardy's UFC resume. Beating Markham, Swick, Gono, and Davis is more impressive then Yoshida, Luigi (by far) and Koscheck..and he hasen't even beat Koscheck.

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How so

markam = fioravanti
swick = Koscheck
Gono = yoshida (these days)
and then you have davis who is a TUFer so afraid of real competition that he specifically asked to fight on all the overseas cards..Which has you know doesnt really have the best of the best..Kevin burns could probably flourish in that environment..

If you hold a torch for hardy then so be it but dont try and make out the fighters he has beaten are head and shoulders above johnson's when they are interchangeable..If johnson beats Kos there really is no differece between the 2
Thats if he beats Koschek. Your comparing what Hardy has done to what Johnson might do. It doesnt hold much weight at the moment. Also, as far as Alves having much better stand up then Hardy, I would have to disagree with that. Alves has a ton of power in his hands but isnt particularly fast or accurate, he was getting outstruck by Karo and Derrick Noble until he caught both of them. GSP completely outstruck him and even dropped him. Hardy has faced much better strikers then Alves has in Swick and Davis and he has outstruck them. Also, Hardy is undeafeated in the UFC, Johnson has two losses regardless of the circumstances surrounding those losses, they are still losses.
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Only thing Alves has the edge on Hardy in the stand-up department is kicks. Hardy is equally as dangerous with punches and knees as Alves is.

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If Alves couldn't do it, no way are we seeing him get 'Serra'd' again. That loss was good for GSP.

I think he'll sub Hardy within 3 rounds.
Alves is nowherer near as crisp with his hands as Hardy. And it's not a case of a "luck" flash KO, it's a case of finding the button with a left hook like he did with Swick

GSP should be able to take him down at will though.
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Thats if he beats Koschek. Your comparing what Hardy has done to what Johnson might do. It doesnt hold much weight at the moment. Also, as far as Alves having much better stand up then Hardy, I would have to disagree with that. Alves has a ton of power in his hands but isnt particularly fast or accurate, he was getting outstruck by Karo and Derrick Noble until he caught both of them. GSP completely outstruck him and even dropped him. Hardy has faced much better strikers then Alves has in Swick and Davis and he has outstruck them. Also, Hardy is undeafeated in the UFC, Johnson has two losses regardless of the circumstances surrounding those losses, they are still losses.
Dude you said "even if anthony beats koscheck, that still wouldnt make him more deserving that hardy" So you are the one that started the hypothetical talk matey..Dont start peddling trying to act like i'm the one going ofcourse now

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That was me sister Jones.

And besides, it's not even back peddling. I strictly said if Johnson beat Koscheck, it still doesn't hold up to Hardy has beaten in the UFC. If Johnson doesn't beat Koscheck, he goes back down the ladder. It's pretty straight forward, not necessarily back peddling.

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Dude you said "even if anthony beats koscheck, that still wouldnt make him more deserving that hardy" So you are the one that started the hypothetical talk matey..Dont start peddling trying to act like i'm the one going ofcourse now
Sorry bruddah, no idea what your talking about. I agree that Johnson is on the same level as Hardy if he gets by Kos, but that is one giant if at the moment. Kos is about four times the fighter then anyone Johnson has faced is.
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ill bet my left nut if rumble is impressive VS kos he will get the shot instead of hardy.

I think Kos is a better fighter then anybody Hardy has faced aswell, so its a moot point
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