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Old 11-17-2009, 11:06 AM   #71 (permalink)
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So I think this could be a good fight and well worth watching.


Alves is a bit overrated by mma fans IMO. Hardy is a bit underrated and has better striking than GSP. I dont think people are being realistic when they say GSP is going to out strike Hardy or KO Hardy, if GSP wins and I think the odds are he will it will come from the ground game possibly even a submission later on in the fight.
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Old 11-17-2009, 02:02 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Mousasi agree to fight in K1 so Dana should make GSP fight under them in the UFC? Alot of MMA fighters have fought in K1, dont understand the point?
That was originally supposed to be an MMA match. But due to fans/Musashi trash talking, Mousasi agreed to fight under K1 rules. Maybe if we complain that GSP's standup sucks he'll do the same.

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I disagree with this and I'm a big GSP fan.

Dont get me wrong, GSP has decent striking but the reason why it looks so good and effective against good strikers/boxers (Alves and BJ for instance) is because he is the best TD artist in MMA and his opponents have so much to worry about standing.

If they get aggressive and over-commit to their strikes, GSP ducks under, shoots in and TDs them. If they dont, GSP sets the pace and out-strikes them.

I'd take Thiago over GSP in a K1 bout and BJ over GSP in a boxing match all day, even though he out-struck/out-boxed both of them in a MMA fight.
Agreed that the GSP from Penn vs St. Pierre I would get outstruck. I've heard the theory before that GSP's take downs make strikers afraid to engange, and it makes sense, but there's no denying the angles and style of GSP's stand up. Remember when he dropped Alves? I think that had very little to do with Alves being afraid of a take down.

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So I think this could be a good fight and well worth watching.


Alves is a bit overrated by mma fans IMO. Hardy is a bit underrated and has better striking than GSP. I dont think people are being realistic when they say GSP is going to out strike Hardy or KO Hardy, if GSP wins and I think the odds are he will it will come from the ground game possibly even a submission later on in the fight.

True, I think Alves' stand up is a bit overrated too. He's got KO power which is great to see at WW but I don't think he's technically at where people think he is.
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So I think this could be a good fight and well worth watching.


Alves is a bit overrated by mma fans IMO. Hardy is a bit underrated and has better striking than GSP. I dont think people are being realistic when they say GSP is going to out strike Hardy or KO Hardy, if GSP wins and I think the odds are he will it will come from the ground game possibly even a submission later on in the fight.
Hardy has heavier hands than GSP but imo GSP's striking is far superior, I also agree that Thiago Alves is overrated, in fact I still think GSP is the best striker in the WW division, he has great hands, a great jab, great kicks, great footwork and he mixes his strikes up very well.
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Old 11-17-2009, 02:12 PM   #74 (permalink)
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I'll give this one a chance. GSP's probably gonna kill him, but that might be fun, too.
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Old 11-17-2009, 02:12 PM   #75 (permalink)
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ieeeeeeee - you are quite right my friend. I apologize to everyone for the error. I don't think the one loss changes my arguement at all though.
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Old 11-17-2009, 05:19 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Not for red blooded heterosexuals it isnt..I am sorry but if you have been a fan of GSP "MATCHES" post montreal you are either a chick,bi,gay or bi curious..And I dont mean that has an insult its just his matches arent aesthetically pleasing at all..Its one thing to be happy your favourite fighter is scoring Ws..But to go as far as to fork out $$$ to watch him basically lay on his opponent for 5 rounds and call that ENTERTAINING? leads me to believe this adoration has nothing to do with MMAs
Sorry man, your post is just stupid.
I don't know why people keep going on about GSP's fighting style, the fact that he likes to use his wrestling and takedowns in his fights. It;s something he's realy good at, probably the best at this moment in the world of MMA. What would you expect him to do??? Try and do a BJJ match against BJ or do a striking match with Alves???
Why is it ok for Demian Maia tot use his BJJ magic in all of his fights or why is it ok for Anderson Silva to use his excellent striking, without some people complaining that he doesn't try and wrestle???
Just remember this: GSP beat Hughes by submission and on the feet, he destroyed BJ on the ground and he totally dominated Fitch on the feet and on the ground.
He is really intelligent and adapts to every opponent.
So give me a break...
GSP is one of the most entertaining fighters in MMA.
His fights should be teached to MMA begginers.
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Old 11-17-2009, 07:44 PM   #77 (permalink)
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Sorry man, your post is just stupid.
I don't know why people keep going on about GSP's fighting style, the fact that he likes to use his wrestling and takedowns in his fights. It;s something he's realy good at, probably the best at this moment in the world of MMA. What would you expect him to do??? Try and do a BJJ match against BJ or do a striking match with Alves???
Why is it ok for Demian Maia tot use his BJJ magic in all of his fights or why is it ok for Anderson Silva to use his excellent striking, without some people complaining that he doesn't try and wrestle???
Just remember this: GSP beat Hughes by submission and on the feet, he destroyed BJ on the ground and he totally dominated Fitch on the feet and on the ground.
He is really intelligent and adapts to every opponent.
So give me a break...
GSP is one of the most entertaining fighters in MMA.
His fights should be teached to MMA begginers.
Hey man you know the saying about opinions obviously yours differ from mine doesnt make mine stupid..I am just glad there was a poster here mature enough to read that post and reply constructively without whining like a b!tch that I am trying to label them this and that
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Old 11-17-2009, 07:57 PM   #79 (permalink)
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Hey man you know the saying about opinions obviously yours differ from mine doesnt make mine stupid..I am just glad there was a poster here mature enough to read that post and reply constructively without whining like a b!tch that I am trying to label them this and that
Well, at least you got what you deserve for saying that GSP is a boring fighter. Alves, Penn's, Serra's, Fitch's post fight hamburger meat faces and bruised up bodies disagree with you. What a great day for MMA Forum.

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Old 11-17-2009, 08:07 PM   #80 (permalink)
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I think GSP would win this fight easily...I think striking wise he beats Hardy, I know some of you that may shock, but GSP's striking is way underrated, also GSP has phenomenal speed closing ability and great take downs to go with his probably best in the 170lb division wrestling.....

Reality I dont see him standing long in this fight, if it ain't broke dont fix it, he will stand while he has to then take Hardy down and pound him....

Maybe it goes three rounds....
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