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Old 11-17-2009, 09:54 PM   #81 (permalink)
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I think GSP would win this fight easily...I think striking wise he beats Hardy, I know some of you that may shock, but GSP's striking is way underrated, also GSP has phenomenal speed closing ability and great take downs to go with his probably best in the 170lb division wrestling.....

Reality I dont see him standing long in this fight, if it ain't broke dont fix it, he will stand while he has to then take Hardy down and pound him....

Maybe it goes three rounds....
Hell yeah, his striking is underrated. That's why I get so psyched when he uses it lots and lots in the manner I described earlier.
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Old 11-18-2009, 01:08 AM   #82 (permalink)
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Lol the thought of people thinking GSP finishes this fight is silly.
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Old 11-18-2009, 01:50 AM   #83 (permalink)
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Lol the thought of people thinking GSP finishes this fight is silly.
o ya, GSP is completely incapable of finishing a fight. He's never done that before. He didn't finish BJ Penn, Matt Hughes, Serra, Sean Sherk, Frank Trigg, or Jay Hieron either so your totally right.
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Sig bet that GSP finishes (sub or TKO) this fight Alex?

So if GSP wins by decision or loses, you win the bet
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Sig bet that GSP finishes (sub or TKO) this fight Alex?

So if GSP wins by decision or loses, you win the bet
I'd like in on that as well. after Xerxes sig expires then I get one.
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o ya, GSP is completely incapable of finishing a fight. He's never done that before. He didn't finish BJ Penn, Matt Hughes, Serra, Sean Sherk, Frank Trigg, or Jay Hieron either so your totally right.
Mmmhmm, how many of those did he finish after the first Serra fight? Two, and no...the BJ Penn fight was not GSP finishing him from knock-out, technical knockout, submission, or doctor stoppage. It was from BJ exhausting himself so let's exclude the Penn fight from that little list. He finished Matt Serra and Matt Hughes, both of which at this day are not more skilled then Hardy is.

Just because on paper GSP looks to be the more dominant fighter does not mean he's going to "easily" get this fight stopped. He'll do what he normally does, use his athleticism and he'll use his superior wrestler to keep his opponent grounded to a decision. It was a cute attempt at sarcasm though, I'll give you that. Stubborn, but cute.

And Xerxes, I normally don't do fiesty little sig bets but just for fun I'll accept.
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Hardy is a bit underrated and has better striking than GSP. I dont think people are being realistic when they say GSP is going to out strike Hardy or KO Hardy, if GSP wins and I think the odds are he will it will come from the ground game possibly even a submission later on in the fight.
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Really?
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Did you really just say that?

GSP is the best striker in WW and would be one of the best strikers in MW. IMO.

He has beaten everyone on their feet minus Serra, in which he got rocked by a fluke punch... could happen to anyone

Since Serra, he has dominated everyone on their feet. Hughes, Alves, Serra, Fitch, penn, koscheck.


To others:

People bashing GSP have been pissing me off. He has one boring fight against Alves and people act like one of the most exciting fighters in the world is boring.

Statistics

15 of his 21 fights have not gone the distance.
His decision over fitch got FOTN and was exciting
His split decision with penn was exciting

so now 17 of his 21 fights were exciting
I would argue that at least 19/21 were exciting.

Some people are so shortsighted

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He didn't really dominate Alves, Penn, Serra, or Koscheck standing up. He was getting better exchanges, but it wasn't in dominating fashion so please, quit excessively exaggerating there. More so in the wrestling department.

People are mainly critical of GSP because of his inability to finish fights..but it's not just that. He does it the safe route ever since the Serra fight. He uses his supreme athleticism to dominate his opponents in the wrestling department and has such a brilliant base that it's damn near impossible to shake him off..but he just grinds and grinds and doesn't really do much to finish the fight. In plain sight, there's nothing "wrong" with this and he knows it's not pleasing to some people so I give him credit for not caring what people think and if I were him, I'd continue doing it. But it is what it is. Don't get mad about it when it's just common knowledge.

Also, his fight with Fitch was exciting because it was pretty cool to see how smashed Fitch's face got inbetween rounds. His first fight with Penn wasn't all too exciting..mediocore at best and overrated. The most exciting aspect of that fight was to see if GSP could come back from an eye poke and shattered nose from a grazing upper cut...not that exciting. That definitely was a fight GSP needed to win on points because he surely wasn't winning anything else.
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He didn't really dominate Alves, Penn, Serra, or Koscheck standing up. He was getting better exchanges, but it wasn't in dominating fashion so please, quit excessively exaggerating there. More so in the wrestling department.

People are mainly critical of GSP because of his inability to finish fights..but it's not just that. He does it the safe route ever since the Serra fight. He uses his supreme athleticism to dominate his opponents in the wrestling department and has such a brilliant base that it's damn near impossible to shake him off..but he just grinds and grinds and doesn't really do much to finish the fight. In plain sight, there's nothing "wrong" with this and he knows it's not pleasing to some people so I give him credit for not caring what people think and if I were him, I'd continue doing it. But it is what it is. Don't get mad about it when it's just common knowledge.

Also, his fight with Fitch was exciting because it was pretty cool to see how smashed Fitch's face got inbetween rounds. His first fight with Penn wasn't all too exciting..mediocore at best and overrated. The most exciting aspect of that fight was to see if GSP could come back from an eye poke and shattered nose from a grazing upper cut...not that exciting. That definitely was a fight GSP needed to win on points because he surely wasn't winning anything else.
I'm mad because people say he just does LNP. That isn't common knowledge, I think his GNP is diverse and he takes advantage of his position on the ground more often then not. Maybe he didnt dominate them on his feet, but he got the better of the exchanges and that's all that matters. I guess I just like wrestling.
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