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Shane Carwin said WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
"I am sure most of you know I am not the leader of the Lesnar Fan Club. That being said, antics or not, he is OUR UFC HWT Champion. He beat a future Hall of Famer to keep that belt and he NEEDS our prayers and good thoughts right now ... Brock has a wife, kid, and friends that depend on him to make their lives better. You do not have to support Brock and his antics but you should have respect for the human side of what is happening here."

Carwin went on to say that Lesnar shouldn't lose his championship belt because of sickness.

"Talk of stripping a man of his title due to illness will set this sport back farther then anything Brock has ever said. We need our Champions healthy and defending. I know the show will go on but to be a Champion you must beat a Champion ... If you sit around bashing Brock or making fun of this because of his antics you might be the very same thing you despise. As an MMA fan, as a human be concerned that one of OUR OWN has fallen and needs our support."

Straight from yahoo.com


Shane Carwin was set to fight Brock Lesnar this weekend and couldnt due to Brocks sickness. I think it took a hell of a man to come out and say all of thes things about Brock. Especially when he calle dout fans by pointing out that bashing Brock is doing the same as what you hate. And on top of that saying he doesnt want to win the title belt unless he wins it straight from Brock. WOW!! I have always loved the guy but then to do this. Major props to Shane Carwin.
 
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#9 ·
Wait... first he bashes Brock for his antics and now he's all concerned and says people shouldn't do the exact same thing he did less than a month ago? So it was just for the show? So he's basically no better than Brock? Yay! Glad we found that out before the fight. :)

Don't get me wrong, it's a nice thing to say, but this is a case of "Do as I say, not as I do" and I don't really know what to think about Carwin.
 
#30 ·
I think what it comes down to is Shane Carwin understands how to seperate his job, from personal life. You think if Sean Sherk and BJ Penn met at a restaurant they'd hate eachother and shoot dirty looks? There's no reason for us to to diss sick fighters because we don't like their fight-persona. It'd be like if Rashad got sick, and people said "good, I hate the way he showboats during fights."

Hell I bet if Lesnar and Mir met at a walmart or something they'd share a few laughs. IMO this is Carwin trying to help the fans seperate reality from fiction so we can feel sympathy for the big guy.
 
#10 ·
People say and do things with the adrenaline flowing that maybe they just wouldn't say or do under other circumstances, like this. To my knowledge, Carwin hated the antics of Brock simply because he felt as if it was an insult to the sport and nature of mma. That translates into the dude has respect, period. To degrade or downplay what he said is hypocrisy in my mind. Just to reiterate, NO ONE has to come out and say anythind in regards to what they think about Brock's situation, but he did. Good stuff Carwin!!!
 
#11 · (Edited)
"People say and do things with the adrenaline flowing that maybe they just wouldn't say or do under other circumstances, like this. To my knowledge, Carwin hated the antics of Brock simply because he felt as if it was an insult to the sport and nature of mma. That translates into the dude has respect, period. To degrade or downplay what he said is hypocrisy in my mind. Just to reiterate, NO ONE has to come out and say anythind in regards to what they think about Brock's situation, but he did. Good stuff Carwin!!!"

Why is it hypocritcal if we downgrade what he said? Failing to see your logic here.
Yes, no one has to come out and say anything, because it's pretty damn obvious everyone feels the same way as Carwin. Sometimes you should as a Human being just be expected to show compassion for another Human being. I think the point people are making, is that Carwin could be accused of sort of putting his own spin on the situation and trying to gain a few fans and a decent image from it. I'm sure 99% of fighters/fans anyone who knows anything about Brock, don't want to see Brock lose his title, his job; possibly his life and leave his family without a husband and father, but then there is also the common sense where people don't feel the need to come out and say it.
 
#12 ·
The hypocrisy is similar to that if someone was fasting and than complained about being hungry. Just an opinion of some of the postings and remarks in regards to the entire situation. As far as Carwin trying to get kudos and gain some more fan base, I don't think he would need to do that. I agree with your statement on humanity. I was simply giving props top Carwin for being both respectful of the sport and nature of mma, as well as being a decent human being.
 
#14 ·
Wasn't Carwin the one saying that if he were in Lesnar's position, he'd go into the fight anyway? Wasn't he just saying this a few weeks ago when all we knew was that he was "sick"?
 
#15 ·
Hit the nail on the head, Carwin is an engineer, he is not stupid by any means. In my OPINION if he truly felt compassion, he would have sent an e-mail or called Brock to say it and not release it in this format. At the very least because he thought that people may assume he isn't 100% sincere considering he's been slating Brock and his whole career including his UFC and WWE performances, not less than a month ago. I am not saying that he is just doing this for public appeal, I'm saying that it just doesn't seem very like Carwin to do this.
 
#16 ·
Did anyone expect different from Carwin? He's always not liked Brock, but never been the kind of guy to be a disgusting human being.

He also made the 'I'd fight anyway' comments when the illness was just mono. Since the intestinal surgery he's been showing sympathy.

And who's to say he hasn't called or emailed Brock to wish him a speedy recovery? You can't, so don't.

Yes he slated Brock before, so what? When shit gets serious and it's not just words anymore he stopped and wished the man healthy. I fail to see the problem.

Carwins a classy guy, and not the only MMA fighter to of bashed Brock. Doesn't mean they wish him dead.
 
#19 ·
I have no doubt that Carwin truly feels some of the things he said about Brock, but I'm also 100% sure a lot of it was to hype a fight, and to put a face to his name.
That's on hold for now, so the man is stepping out of that charachter and showing concern for a fellow human being. I don't think it's hypocritical, or somehow BS... I think, even if just for the moment, Carwin understands there is a bigger picture here than the UFC HW title.
And I for one respect him for that.

Something also tells me. When Brock comes back, god willing, their fight will have a very different aura around it.
 
#20 ·
Who was saying horrible things about Brock, anyway? I think most of the responses I've seen have been about how horrible it is that he's sick.

I'm confused about what should happen with an interim title and so on, but I'm definitely on board with wishing Brock a quick and complete recovery.

This is the worst thing to happen in MMA since Evan Tanner's death.
 
#22 ·
Imagine if the roles were reversed, would brock say something like that to carwin? Hell no, he'd probably talk shit.

The brock hugging MMA newcomers from the WWE forums never cease to amaze me with their ignorance. If there is ONE decent thing about shitdog, it's that the few brock huggers get verbal beatdowns for acting so stupid.
 
#23 ·
It's nice, but it doesn't make up for the whole douchy "I'd fight sick if I were Brock" crap that he pulled earlier. I mean of course this is the kinda thing you'd expect from any human being not a complete turd. You don't make fun of a man who might be on his deathbed or near disability. Whatever his alleged flaws, he is a human being first.

What Carwin shouldn't have done is posted that stuff in the first place. Honestly, this guy's self-righteousness pisses me off, when he comes off as fake and publicity hungry more than compassionate. If he wanted to be compassionate, all it takes is one word of true apology in this blog, saying "Brock, sorry I misjudged your illness man, get well soon and lets do this thing." Nope no apologies, just more arrogant self-righteous, "I am a baby faced angel" crap.

All he ever does is berate fans and fighters for not measuring up to his standards ... well Mr. Carwin, what you did was bad too, jumping to conclusions about Brock and his illness and essentially calling him a ***** for something that might kill Brock or end his career. No, this hypocritical lecture will not make me like you more either, I think you've been a fake hero since the day you started calling out Brock like some kind of spoilt child trying to play kinight in shining armor. If you want to be a truly "good" guy fighter, learn some true humility and compassion from Fedor or GSP.

Oh and as for those people trying to justify Carwin's earlier comments as "trying to hype the fight", that is and always was a horrible excuse for personal attacks. Of course marketing idiots and all will tell you to do that kind of thing for cheap publicity... there is always a cheap and short term reason in life to take the low road. That doesn't justify it, no one is putting a gun to your head and making you do it ... the likes of Fedor/GSP/Anderson never talk shit about their opponents (well except for the whole Matt Hughes thing, but that was provoked), no matter what it does to "hype" their fights. In fact, they'll be the other extreme and actually praise their opponents skills, even when they know deep down that most of the fools they face don't stand a snowball's chance in hell. In the long run, people respect them even more, and their fights sell themselves. Look what Tito's repetitive "hyping" of fights got him ... the man is a joke now.
 
#24 ·
The title of this thread is so disappointing... you would think Carwin said Brock is faking or he hopes he dies... what is shocking about wishing him a recovery?? He should just keep his mouth shut and not try to gain popularity off Brock again, this time using his illness and his "nice guy" blogs to gain more fans... still exploiting Brock and the silly baby face, bully beating, disabled kid loving, all american hero...
 
#25 ·
The title of this thread is so disappointing... you would think Carwin said Brock is faking or he hopes he dies... what is shocking about wishing him a recovery?? He should just keep his mouth shut and not try to gain popularity off Brock again, this time using his illness and his "nice guy" blogs to gain more fans... still exploiting Brock and the silly baby face, bully beating, disabled kid loving, all american hero...
Brock is only popular now because of the UFC hype train. Dana white wanted to bridge a gap between you WWE fans and MMA so he brought brock into the mix. He has no "fame" and no worthy MMA credentials. Carwin has been fighting MMA before brock even knew what it was.


Also, it was BROCK who started to talk trash first. I like how when carwin sticks up for himself hes all of the sudden the bad guy. Its a shame brock didnt abuse roids so much or else they would be fighting this weekend and we could finally put an end to this brock nuthugging fest.
 
#28 ·
It's not worth replying to him tbh mate. I was going to reply, but then read the phrase 'no worthy mma credentials' from a Carwin nuthugger and wrote the entire post off as inane drivel.
 
#31 ·
Everyone says he is trying to make a name of this fight, that may be true, he has knocked Brock for his antic's ,However....Shane Carwin is a very educated man and i believe he was really disgusted by Brock's actions after the Mir fight....

Able to put those feelings aside and say things like Carwin did in that article just makes me respect him more....
 
#32 ·
This is a dumb question but what happened with Brock after the Mir fight? I don't remember if I was at the bar and couldn't hear or if I was at a party and just was too f*cked up to remember but I just have no idea what people are talking about when they mention it and it's starting to bother me and make me curious.
 
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