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post #21 of 104 (permalink) Old 11-19-2009, 10:47 PM
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It's sad to see Karo fall so far.
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post #22 of 104 (permalink) Old 11-19-2009, 11:09 PM
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I'm surprised that there aren't more restrictions on painkillers of this strength considering how brutal the detox can be (based on what you've described below).

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Had the exact problem so I know what he is dealing with, the suspension should have been his wake up call.
It sucks, sucks bad but if you want to stop there are ways to get help and get well, if you really want to.
I wish he would have gotten help during his time off. Hope he does now.
That being siad he is one of my least favorite fighters but I wish on no man what he is for because it is hell.
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Just to clarify a bit, I was seriously injured in a car wreck many years ago. The injuries I sustained took a long time to heal and required several surgeries. During this process I was provided with everything from Morphine, demarol, codiene(spelling?), vic's, perc's, oxy and others. I'm quite familliar with the effects that narcotics have on people.

I'm guessing you have some experience with these things as well by your statement. Are you still using narcotics?

Obviously you are still smoking. I still smoke, but I don't use painkillers anymore. I only had to quit those once.
Not everybody reacts the same to them. Some people can't wait to stop taking them because they don't like them at all. Everything you say in this thread is stupid. Stop acting like an expert when you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
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post #24 of 104 (permalink) Old 11-20-2009, 12:24 AM
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I don't blame Dana for being pissed if Karo wasn't honestly initially, considering the fight is two days away. But I hope Karo gets the help he needs and gets his life back together.

Too bad for the fans. This had FOTN written all over it.
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Not everybody reacts the same to them. Some people can't wait to stop taking them because they don't like them at all. Everything you say in this thread is stupid. Stop acting like an expert when you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
Easy there turbo, you can keep the insults and hate, that does nothing for the subject matter.

I just read some more on this from several sites and dude is definitely jacked. Throwing away a potential 80k+ payday is stupid. Karo doesn't need you or anyone else cuddling him, he needs to take care of his shit. Don't make it out to be brain surgery, or astrophysics.

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The truth is, he needs to harden the **** up. Thats easier said than done. Thats all there is to it though. It's always an addicts choice to keep doing it, but you become habbit forming, and your choice is made for you everyday without thinking. It takes a drastic change, or huge problem to snap you out of it.

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Is that what you would say to him? You would say "Hey Karo, harden the **** up!". I'm sure he will be respond "hey, I never thought of that, what profound advise!".

Saying it is always an addicts choice to keep doing it is true, but that doesn't mean he should do it without help. And somthing tells me telling him to "harden the **** up" (i recognize he won't see this, but it's the principal) isn't what would help him.

Maybe love from family and friends and rehab along with deciding for himself that he wants to quit?


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Man this is really unfortunate. Both for the fighters and the fans. I think that fight would have been a good one. I really wanted to see some possibly awesome Judo.



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Had the exact problem so I know what he is dealing with, the suspension should have been his wake up call.
It sucks, sucks bad but if you want to stop there are ways to get help and get well, if you really want to.
I wish he would have gotten help during his time off. Hope he does now.
That being siad he is one of my least favorite fighters but I wish on no man what he is for because it is hell.
This is dead on. Having worked with many addicts from prescribed to street drugs, the first step is admitting it and getting help. He should have checked in to a program (or a member from his team could have done it for him). Interventions, social programs, private specialists... there are a lot of options, but it's for sure a tough habit to kick.

I won't bash him, but he should have realized that the suspension was kind of a looming warning. I was never too interested by him, even though I saw the skills he possessed. I don't think he'll be coming back from this unless it's in smaller shows... or maybe Japan.

It's a shame, he's a very talented individual.
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Is that what you would say to him? You would say "Hey Karo, harden the **** up!". I'm sure he will be respond "hey, I never thought of that, what profound advise!".
Well, I can see what you mean, but it's clear nothing has worked so far. I'm sure his family has been trying to get him on track in a more gentle way. In his line of work, there's no middle ground for taking pills though, he's done. So it's to the point of what I was saying. He needs a drastic blow like getting fired from the UFC to hopefully harden up. His family can only do so much.

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