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post #31 of 104 (permalink) Old 11-20-2009, 03:14 PM
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harden up? The dude is a succesfull pofessioanl fighter (not a world champ, but you'd be lying if you said he isn't a success). he punches, throws, kicks tough men for a living, and has the smae done to him.
Addiction grabs you, addiction makes you weaker than your true self, and forces you to make mistakes. then, it capitalizes on those mistakes as you rely more heavily on the crutch of your addiciton.
I quit using over a decade ago. I smoked for some time afterwords, because cigs weren't going to kill me as quickly. Eventually, i decided that they had to go, too, and I did.
I have watched as hard, smart, brilliant, beautiful people got DESTROYED by addictions to pills that their doctors gave them, and by junk they shot in alleys.

Yes, there needs to be an "aha!" moment when he gets help, and it might come after an intervention, or after getting fired by the UFC or by going to jail. BUT....those things are just the CATALYST for teh momment that it happens INSIDE him, when HE realises that he must get clean. I'm not a fan of his, but I hope with all my might that this moment comes before he loses everything.


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smh...good example of why medical marijuana should be pushed to the forefront. People laugh and laugh and riducule and laugh about holistic treatments...but what do you really get from painkillers? Seriously....what do you get. I myself dont take pills and I ve gotten only 1 prescription in my life (oxycotin for wisdom teeth)...took 3 one day and felt no noticeable difference (maybe a placebo).

I like Karo....but I gotta admit he made a stupid decision to get wrapped in painkillers.
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Wow, that sucks.
There goes his MMA career.
Pretty disappointing to hear this.
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[QUOTE=flexor;1047793]Addiction to pain killers only requires the addictee to say no.

YEP! Theres no excuse for not stopping except that deep down you dont really want to. Millions of people have done it. Addiction is nothing new.
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YEP! Theres no excuse for not stopping except that deep down you dont really want to. Millions of people have done it. Addiction is nothing new.
What an idiotic statement. I don't know if you knew this but science has discovered quite a few things in the last 20 years.

- Not everyone gains weight by eating sweets
- Not everyone needs 8 hours of sleep a night to feel rested
- Not everyone is good at math
- Not everyone is good at sports
- Not everyone gets cancer from smoking cigarettes

Basically, as it turns out, no two people are built the same. It's a proven fact that some people have chemical imbalances in their brain that prevents them from kicking addictions as easily as others. Why do you think some people are prone to alcoholism and others aren't? Why do you think there are people who smoke cigarettes only when they drink and others who smoke a pack a day? There's a difference between a habit and a disease called addiction.
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What an idiotic statement. I don't know if you knew this but science has discovered quite a few things in the last 20 years.

- Not everyone gains weight by eating sweets
- Not everyone needs 8 hours of sleep a night to feel rested
- Not everyone is good at math
- Not everyone is good at sports
- Not everyone gets cancer from smoking cigarettes

Basically, as it turns out, no two people are built the same. It's a proven fact that some people have chemical imbalances in their brain that prevents them from kicking addictions as easily as others. Why do you think some people are prone to alcoholism and others aren't? Why do you think there are people who smoke cigarettes only when they drink and others who smoke a pack a day? There's a difference between a habit and a disease called addiction.
I dont really want to disclose my life on here but lets just say ive lived it! for many years. alcohol and narcotics destroyed a huge part of my life and took away a chunk of my freedom too. If I could do it anybody can.
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I've been there, bad stuff. Oxy will f u up.
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I dont really want to disclose my life on here but lets just say ive lived it! for many years. alcohol and narcotics destroyed a huge part of my life and took away a chunk of my freedom too. If I could do it anybody can.
Well props to you honestly. But even though it might be hard to imagine people out there who might have to go through more of a struggle than you did, they ARE out there. They are saying now that for some people, something triggers in their brain dealing with nicotine (using MRI's for evidence) that makes it virtually impossible for them to quit. They have found that some people have this activity ranging from moderate severe, while others, although still addicted to nicotine, do not have this activity at all.

You may have had a hell of a time quitting, but chances are there are some people out there that naturally will have an even harder time than you. Anyway, props to you for doing it, but try to be more sensitive to those who weren't born with the same amount of will power as you were.

Karo is a tough guy, anyone who saw his early fights when he was fighting Sean Sherk at the ripe age of 17 or so, or realizes that Karo has been a Judoka for most of his life and how much pain you go through in that sport, knows how tough Karo really is. But addiction can be a disease, and sometimes no matter how tough you are, your brain just doesn't allow you to overcome these crutches without intense treatment or other medications to fix the chemical imbalance that can also carry drastic risks.
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I dont really want to disclose my life on here but lets just say ive lived it! for many years. alcohol and narcotics destroyed a huge part of my life and took away a chunk of my freedom too. If I could do it anybody can.
Same here. Karo just needs to man up. Painkillers? Shit, try being addicted to the blend of drugs I was on...........
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This is the reason I don't take anything stronger than Advil or whiskey. I saw too many 'tough' athletes growing up succumb to painkiller addiction. There should be more awareness to the addictive properties of the painkillers, especially before they're prescribed.

As for Karo, it's too bad, I enjoy watching him fight. I'd still pay good money to see him matchup with Matt Hughes.

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