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Old 12-24-2006, 07:15 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Even if you are a pro boxer it doesnt make up for your constant ignorant statements.
I was thinking the same thing. And AtomDanger made a good point, MMA events can end anytime, why would they risk getting caught when MMA events do not go to decisions as often as other sports, such as boxing.

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Old 12-24-2006, 07:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Are you kidding me? Most UFC jerk off fans dont even know who the hell Rampage is. It's going take a lot of time and few cakewalk fights for him to get their attention and build the hype for Rampage vs. Liddell 2
A lot more people know who Rampage is than you may think. Also I believe it will only take one or two sacrificial lambs before Rampage gets his shot at Chuck (ala The Spider's demolition of Leben).

Now on to the original question. There is always the concern that there is compromised judging. Dana White himself has expressed concern and anger over the same influences that killed Boxing making their way into MMA. Unfortunately as MMA becomes more and more profitable, this issue will only become more relevant. I do however place more of the responsibility for this on the shoulders of the athletic commision than the UFC itself. I don't think that the situation here is anywhere near as bad as boxing. Sure I think that the Tito over Forrest decision was wrong as was the Hunt over Wanderlei decision, just so I don't single out the UFC, but these fights were both really close and the judges are taking in a lot of different criteria. I haven't seen anything so obviously wrong yet that would really set off alarm bells, so I will give them the benefit of the doubt for now.

Luckily it will most likely be a moot point in this particular case. I just don't see this fight going the distance unless Tito can consistently take Chuck down (highly unlikely) and can't finish him off, but can keep him down for most of each round. Chuck isn't looking for a decision. He's not going to just keep circling and throwing a cheesy jab like the Maine-iac, waiting fo the time to expire. Much like CroCop, everything Chuck throws has bad intentions behind it. Chuck isn't trying to score points. He's trying to turn his opponents head into hamburger. Tito's gigantic head makes for quite the target too
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Old 12-24-2006, 08:18 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Are you kidding me? Most UFC jerk off fans dont even know who the hell Rampage is. It's going take a lot of time and few cakewalk fights for him to get their attention and build the hype for Rampage vs. Liddell 2
not kidding at all. all it takes is good marketing and Rampage Demolishing a couple guys. What average UFC fan knew who Anderson Silva was when he went to UFC? not to many, but he won a couple in convincing fashion and now all the sudden he has many fans. The other thing is, Rampage knows how to market himself as a monster, he always has that unbeatable type attitude. If Chuck beats Tito, chuck also looks like a monster. what fan wouldn't eat up a monster vs monster super fight.

But this is getting way off base. no i don't think the judges are corrupt. have they made decisions i don't agree with, ya. But all fights can be viewed from different angles so not everyone will agree with all decisions and this is why a fighter should never ever leave a fight in the judges hands
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Old 12-24-2006, 08:30 PM   #14 (permalink)
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No, Chuck should not be concerned about getting screwed! The only way Chuck will lose is if he gets knocked out, Submitted, Choked out, get his arms or legs broken, getting cut above the eye, or get disqualifed! Other then that, Chuck has nothing to worry about!
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Old 12-24-2006, 08:54 PM   #15 (permalink)
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The only UFC fight that I was very suspicious of was the Bonnar versus Jardine fight. I and all of my friends were sure that Jardine clearly won that fight hands down. Then they give the Decision to Bonnar somehow I was like wtf is going on here. That is the only fight I have seen where I was very suspicious about them just giving the fight to Bonnar because he is a more popular fighter and it would be better for ratings.

I really dont think that Chuck has anythin to worry about though because I really cant see this fight goin to a decision. Its either going to be Chuck with a KO in the first 3 rounds or Tito Ref stoppage in the later rounds only if Chuck gases.
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Old 12-25-2006, 12:07 AM   #16 (permalink)
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He is probably just bitter because he has lost some decisions in the past and has to blame the judges or officating in order to protect his ego.


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Old 12-26-2006, 07:04 PM   #17 (permalink)
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That's ridiculous...of course someone who is directly involved in a sport has a better understanding of how the system works than a spectator. How could you possibly think otherwise?
Do you have anything to do with the judges scoring system?

no

How can u take ur own personnal experience and put it in the major organisation? Like i said, even if u were indeed fighting in a major mma(or boxing) organisation, u dont have anything to do with the judging, only with how u have to fight to get in their scoresheet(just like in any sport with scoring system). You dont see a diver saying "i understand how i got robbed" and the rest not seeing it.

And even if u were right about you knowing more than a spectator, then u wouldnt know anything about the UFC compared to a fighter.


Besides, if the fight does go to decision, its going to be because chuck will not have been able to strike Tito, and if thats the case, its going to be because Tito got the fight down, on top.. i dont see how the judge can score a fight to the fighter on the bottom, unless he keeps pulling mad submissions.
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Old 12-26-2006, 07:26 PM   #18 (permalink)
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The only UFC fight that I was very suspicious of was the Bonnar versus Jardine fight. I and all of my friends were sure that Jardine clearly won that fight hands down. Then they give the Decision to Bonnar somehow I was like wtf is going on here. That is the only fight I have seen where I was very suspicious about them just giving the fight to Bonnar because he is a more popular fighter and it would be better for ratings.

I really dont think that Chuck has anythin to worry about though because I really cant see this fight goin to a decision. Its either going to be Chuck with a KO in the first 3 rounds or Tito Ref stoppage in the later rounds only if Chuck gases.
That was just a case of bad officiating and it happens in all sports, we don't all see things the same unfortunatley.
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Old 12-26-2006, 07:31 PM   #20 (permalink)
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