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UFC 69: NO Hughes - It's GSP vs. Diego!

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#52 ·
aerius said:
Takedowns, BJ Penn managed to get GSP off his feet once, and didn't get anything in. Matt Hughes was solidly stuffed several times. Sanchez ain't nearly as good as those 2 at takedowns, he ain't getting GSP down with anything other than luck. GSP has gotten takedowns on all the best, including a solid slam on Penn. He'll have little problem taking down Sanchez who was repeatedly dropped to the mat by Parisyan.
I was meaning to comment on this in earlier threads. Some people were saying that Hughes lost because he chose to fight a standup fight with GSP. I think he had no option but to standup because he shot in a few times and got stuffed on every attempt.
 
#54 ·
hughes got beat down, diego will fair a bit better standing as he is a better boxer than hughes but gsp can take him down at will and gnp him badly also very easily stuff his takedowns.
gsp has better standup than diego does.

I think will win by tko gnp elbows.
 
#55 · (Edited)
This is another one of those "let's get some money from the TUF audience" fights. Diego is so, so below GSP's game he doesn't stand a chance IMO.

He's been propped up by cans and second rate fighters that play into his fighting style up to this point. You will witness an embarrassing slaughter that the kid will not recover from for quite some time.

Ps. I'm getting kind of sick and also a little insulted by these matchups lately. First GSP is fighting Serra, then Diego? That's bullshit. Give GSP a matchup that will at least get him to break a sweat. What's next? Forrest vs chuck? You bet. Come on, there are a bunch of good fighters out there, and the UFC is puffing these reality show nobodies into big names and making hundreds of millions of dollars off of it.
 
#56 · (Edited)
hmmm I have to give you that to a certain degree but I think Diego does have true talent, to the point we should keep an eye on it. When it comes to his next fight then whats the options? Hughes or GSP (assuming BJ is dropping a weight, especially after the fight building series of BJ v Pulver TUF)? I think a rematch striaght after a loss isn't a good thing, especially when KTFO! So it has to be GSP, sorry but I just don't think he's got enough experience of top level fighting. OK he's charged through the opposition but really....BJ would have put his eyebrow in his brain while pullin some sort of pretzel as a sprawl & Hughes IMO would have powered through his determination as they're styles are similar. I'm gonna side with GSP but I'm not counting out Diego as he is good. It'll need a bit of luck/mistake though.

PS. another drunken post, I tried, maybe failed but I'll live with the humiliation otherwise :D
^^^ most edited post ever
 
#57 ·
NICK C said:
I was meaning to comment on this in earlier threads. Some people were saying that Hughes lost because he chose to fight a standup fight with GSP. I think he had no option but to standup because he shot in a few times and got stuffed on every attempt.
The way I saw it was that Hughes was overconfident and thought he could stand with St. Pierre because he managed to hurt Penn after his injury.

His legs got injured from all those kicks that he could not effectively takedown St. Pierre (not taking anything from St. Pierre, his takedown defence is sick).

Hughes was not aggressive enough with his takedowns to begin with (like he was against Penn) and when he finally realized he was not winning the stand up, it was already too late.
 
#59 ·
Hughes also fought GSP's fight and not his own. Hughes is a fool for trying to standup and fight with those who can obviously do it better. Hughes won so many times because of his ability to wrestle well and he totally changed his gameplan for the worse
 
#63 ·
Diego is a truly talented MMA fighter who happened to accept a chance to be on UFN. You can't fault him for appearing on the show but he is not just another TUF fighter. Part of what makes GSP so bad ass is his ability to impose his will on his opponent. He DOMINATES. I think Diego will welcome the idea of someone trying to do that to him but it ain't gonna happen. People have been salivating at each fight hoping its his first loss. GSP will probably be his first loss, hey, Matt Hughes was GSP first and only loss so if it happens it happens. But if it doesn't, I am going to print out this thread and use it as actual wall paper at my house. I love reading Diego threads after his fights. "He better be able to take Riggs down, he would be a fool to box with him......" :laugh:
 
#64 ·
Halebop said:
Diego is a truly talented MMA fighter who happened to accept a chance to be on UFN. You can't fault him for appearing on the show but he is not just another TUF fighter. Part of what makes GSP so bad ass is his ability to impose his will on his opponent. He DOMINATES. I think Diego will welcome the idea of someone trying to do that to him but it ain't gonna happen. People have been salivating at each fight hoping its his first loss. GSP will probably be his first loss, hey, Matt Hughes was GSP first and only loss so if it happens it happens. But if it doesn't, I am going to print out this thread and use it as actual wall paper at my house. I love reading Diego threads after his fights. "He better be able to take Riggs down, he would be a fool to box with him......" :laugh:
Ha Ha definetly man. Especially to all the retards who think GSP is gonna knock him out easily and that Diego has no chance. They obviously know nothing and just dont like him becuase of his attitude or because he is from TUF even though he proves his skills in every fight. Haha and I really cant believe that people actually thought he was going to lose to riggs. I was like are these people serious Riggs isnt even good and hasnt knocked out anyone in over 2 years. Diego is gonna kill him its not gonna be even fair. As for GSP he probably will give Diego his first loss but in no way is it going to be a masssacre like it was when he beat Hughes. Diego definetly has a good shot at winning.
 
#65 ·
steveo412 said:
Ha Ha definetly man. Especially to all the retards who think GSP is gonna knock him out easily and that Diego has no chance. They obviously know nothing and just dont like him becuase of his attitude or because he is from TUF even though he proves his skills in every fight. Haha and I really cant believe that people actually thought he was going to lose to riggs. I was like are these people serious Riggs isnt even good and hasnt knocked out anyone in over 2 years. Diego is gonna kill him its not gonna be even fair. As for GSP he probably will give Diego his first loss but in no way is it going to be a masssacre like it was when he beat Hughes. Diego definetly has a good shot at winning.

I definitely disagree. I think Diego is going down in the second or third round, without too much of a fight. The pressure alone is going to fold him.

He is one of the few TUF fighters that shows some promise, but he is way below St. Piere's level at the moment. I think the beating that he is going to take will set him back quite a ways too.
 
#66 ·
randyspankstito said:
I definitely disagree. I think Diego is going down in the second or third round, without too much of a fight. The pressure alone is going to fold him.

He is one of the few TUF fighters that shows some promise, but he is way below St. Piere's level at the moment. I think the beating that he is going to take will set him back quite a ways too.
The pressure... Are you joking. Has pressure ever affected Diego in a fight...not even close. I think that his mental game is probably one of the strongest out there. Sure he has not been in this big of a fight before, but pressure is always there no matter who your fighting and he pretty much shows the perfect mindset for going into any fight. I think his mental game has to be one of his strongest assets and he is definetly not going to lose this fight because of that.
 
#67 ·
steveo412 said:
The pressure... Are you joking. Has pressure ever affected Diego in a fight...not even close. I think that his mental game is probably one of the strongest out there. Sure he has not been in this big of a fight before, but pressure is always there no matter who your fighting and he pretty much shows the perfect mindset for going into any fight. I think his mental game has to be one of his strongest assets and he is definetly not going to lose this fight because of that.

You are a pretty strong persuader, but Diego is going down hard!!!:cheeky4: :cheeky4:
 
#68 · (Edited)
randyspankstito said:
This is another one of those "let's get some money from the TUF audience" fights. Diego is so, so below GSP's game he doesn't stand a chance IMO.

He's been propped up by cans and second rate fighters that play into his fighting style up to this point. You will witness an embarrassing slaughter that the kid will not recover from for quite some time.

Ps. I'm getting kind of sick and also a little insulted by these matchups lately. First GSP is fighting Serra, then Diego? That's bullshit. Give GSP a matchup that will at least get him to break a sweat. What's next? Forrest vs chuck? You bet. Come on, there are a bunch of good fighters out there, and the UFC is puffing these reality show nobodies into big names and making hundreds of millions of dollars off of it.
Exactly! Great post, at least someone gets it.. the UFC is so into overrating these crappy TUF fighters. All the commentators will laud their worst punches as "incredible" and all their horrible beatings taken as "great heart". And when they lose, they'll encourage rumors of bad decisons to appease the fans. Not to mention bumping up their win-loss records to insane win percentages by giving them all cans (and yes, Joe Riggs is a can when it comes to the A level). Bottomline is, TUF is UFC's ticket to enter the mainstream audience but it doesn't attract a lot of the real fighters. It attracts the drama queens that reality TV requires.

Of course, out of all the TUF guys I do think Diego is one of the better ones. My pet peeves are more Griffin, Bonnar, Serra and others.

p.s. you have been repped.
 
#70 ·
steveo412 said:
Its always good when my posts make other people having nothing meaningful to say because they know that I am totally right.

Now your just being a prick. I just didn't want to get into a back and forth over whether diego has a strong mindgame or not. You think he does, I think he hasn't fought at this level or even close to it and that will be a big factor in the enourmous beatdown he is going to take.
 
#71 ·
randyspankstito said:
Now your just being a prick. I just didn't want to get into a back and forth over whether diego has a strong mindgame or not. You think he does, I think he hasn't fought at this level or even close to it and that will be a big factor in the enourmous beatdown he is going to take.
Lol alright we are just gonna have to agree to disagree. Obviously he hasnt fought at this level because GSP is #1 in the world. But saying he hasnt fought even close to the top is kinda exaggerating it. Like Joe Riggs isnt up their but Karo definetly is.
 
#72 ·
steveo412 said:
Lol alright we are just gonna have to agree to disagree. Obviously he hasnt fought at this level because GSP is #1 in the world. But saying he hasnt fought even close to the top is kinda exaggerating it. Like Joe Riggs isnt up their but Karo definetly is.
:thumbsup: Plus, when he fought Karo (who def ain't a bad fighter) he wasn't fighting for the Welterweight title in the main event of a PPV. He was fighting at UFN in front of a way smaller crowd who probably didn't even know who either of them were.
 
#73 ·
randyspankstito said:
:thumbsup: Plus, when he fought Karo (who def ain't a bad fighter) he wasn't fighting for the Welterweight title in the main event of a PPV. He was fighting at UFN in front of a way smaller crowd who probably didn't even know who either of them were.
Very true. He looked awesome in the Karo fight and was definetly not affected mentally at all in that fight.

Diego is all about Meditation and his trainer Greg Jackson is one of the best in training his fighters mentally. He will definetly make sure that Diego is ready for this fight mentally and physically. Diego has been in title fights before, obviously nothing like the UFC welterweight title but they still give him experience in fighting for championships. I really cant see his mental game being the reason for him losing though. If he loses for any reason it is going to be from GSPs all around great skills. Either way it is not going to be an easy fight for either of them and I expect a war. This is a fight between the 2 best condition fighters in the division IMO. I Could definetly see it going to a decision or into the late rounds.

Lol it would really suck after all this writing that this fight never happened. It is still just a rumor but man would I be pissed off.
 
#74 ·
I'll give credit where it's due, Diego is a good all-round fighter and can easily hang with anyone who's around Karo's level. He's also one of the fastest improving fighters around, he's come a long way and improved his skills a lot as seen in his fight with Karo. If he keeps improving at this rate he'll be championship material in a couple years.

But like I said, he ain't there yet and he still has a long way to go. And then there's the other problem, GSP ain't exactly getting stale either, he's also improving significantly with every fight and constantly adding to his skillset. If he stays focused and hungry he's going to be almost impossible to beat.
 
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