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View Poll Results: Who will be the man to beat Anderson Silva?
Tito Ortiz 2 5.26%
Shogun Rua 9 23.68%
GSP 8 21.05%
Nate Marquardt 2 5.26%
Dan Henderson 6 15.79%
other 11 28.95%
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post #1 of 33 (permalink) Old 11-21-2009, 03:21 PM Thread Starter
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Who will be the guy to end Anderson Silva's win streak?

With Anderson bouncing around in weight classes, its tough to figure out who is going to be the guy to knock him off. Although he has looked great at LHW, he has faught guys that have been tailor made for him to tear up. I think a big strong grappler, would give him a ton of trouble in that division. There are very few holes in this mans game, and if you make one mistake, most likely your going to either be in the fetal position taking blows, or your going to tapping out do to a slick submission. But if Silva has one flaw it would be his TDD. And in a 3 round fight, which it would be if he faught at LHW. A big strong grappler could pull off the upset. Too bad there arent many of them

Tito Ortiz
People may call me crazy for mentioning Tito's name, but love him or hate him, he is still a very dangerous guy. Tito is a HUGE LHW. Anderson has never faught anyone as strong as Tito with the takedown abilty and suffocating top control. Tito is VERY tough to submit, and wouldnt even have to pass Silva's guard to do damage. Call me crazy, but Tito matches up very well with Anderson. And in a 3 round fight, all he has to do is get TD's in the first 2 rounds, throw some bows, bully Anderson a bit and play it very safe in the 3rd round and grind out the decision. Tito has a very good chin and if he couldnt secure a TD in the 3rd I think he has the defense necessary to hold on to beat Silva via decision. If Tito gets past Forrest, this fight is VERY possible. It would be a huge PPV draw, and I fight I would love to see. Dont be shocked if you see this fight in the summer.

Shogun Rua
Even before his fight with Machida, Ive always thought Shogun would beat Silva. Shogun has improved his defense ALOT, and isnt the sloppy striker he once was. His chin is rock solid and his movement is great. He has very good TD's, with serious ground and pound. I dunno if ive ever seen anyone knock people unconcious with one blow from the guard like he can. His bjj is very good and he wouldnt be in any trouble with Silva on the ground. Silva would have the edge in the standup but I dont think it would that dramatic. Out of all matchups with Anderson, Shogun would provide the most exciting fight. He wouldnt be afraid to bang, and he would mix in some slick grappling. It would be a see saw battle for sure. But I think Shogun's TD's and ground and pound would give him the nod in a decision.

Nate Marquardt
Probably one of the most improved fighters over the last couple years, Nate is solid everywhere. Good power, smooth strikes, decent wrestling, and good submissions. There is only one problem with Nate Marquardt, he isnt Anderson Silva. Anderson is dynamic in everything that Nate does well. And Nate wouldnt shy away from Silva, which is why I dont think he would last too long in a rematch. Silva TKO 2nd round

Dan Henderson
Lets pretend he is still under contract with the UFC. Dan is still a very dangerous guy for Silva. He has great wrestling and is strong as hell. But Dan simply doesnt have the top game necessary to beat a guy like Silva. He isnt busy enough, and in a 5 round fight he is bound to get stood up numerous times. And during one of those standups Silva will catch him and either finish him with strikes or submission.

Word on the street is that Montreal Mauler is close to 200lbs. Sounds to me like he is getting his body ready for a MW fight. A bulked up GSP is a nightmare for Silva. He wouldnt wait 10 seconds before shooting in and putting Silva on his back. From there, he is one of the most active fighters in the sport from the top position. If a fat out of shape Travis Lutter can pass Silva's guard, a freak like GSP certainly will be able to grind on Silva wear him out and get passed his guard. GSP is a cardio machine, he wouldnt stop taking Silva down. His pace wouldnt stop, he would just keep coming. And I dont think Silva could handle being pushed like that. He would break Silva down and take him out of his game. Unless Silva lands a flying knee, I see no other outcome than a decision win for St. Pierre.

The list if fairly short. Noone in the MW division or LHW division is going to outstrike him. He wont fight Machida or Nogueira. Mousasi fights for strikeforce. So this is it. Unless you guys think there are other guys out there that can beat him. These guys are not only the ones most likely to beat him, but most likely to fight him as well.


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Travis Lutter in a rematch?

Seriously though, Shogun. This guy was KO'ing Rampage in the first round when Silva was still puttering around at low weight classes and losing to 175lb submission guys.

If we went back a few years and asked who'd win, Shogun vs Silva, the answer would be a very confident "RUA." If he's back in his prime, I think Silva would be best to avoid a fight with him.
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You need a 'no one' option.
I dont believe anyone is unbeatable.


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At this point its really hard to say. I think Shogun looked really damn good in his last fight, he also looked stellar against Liddell. Provided that Shogun can get past Machida in the rematch, I will pick him to be the guy to stop Anderson.
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You need a 'no one' option.
#2 But to put Tito Ortiz into this list is balls^^
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post #7 of 33 (permalink) Old 11-21-2009, 03:32 PM
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A lot of those guys aren

woops - I pre-posted. Sorry.

what I am trying to say is that only Hendo and Nate are in his weight class. I don't think GSP could - Silva has him on size and GSP, imho, isn't any better, so I think GSP would suffer - likely in the way Forrest did.

For Shogun and Tito, Anderson would be going up a class. I think Shogun is one of the all time greats - right up there with Anderson. But it's almost not a fair match when talking about winning streaks. I think it would be even, I'd hate to chose.

Personally, I think the fair question is who in his weight class can beat him. GSP could be a contender in a year or two, if he keeps bulking up, but then Silva is closer to his tail end while GSP would be prime and experienced and fully grown.

Right now, I think Hendo is always a threat. The guy is just a righteous competitor, but I wouldn't bet on him.

Nate has improved a lot. Comparing a new fight to their old one would be like comparing Ryo's chances against Silva again. I think Nate would have a great chance in the weight class as it stands right now.

And then there's Vitor. This is a fight I just can not wait to see. It's a mystery to me. I haven't seen enough from him to make a decision, but if Vitor is in full battle mode, and paying close attention like he often does and can, then I just might take those odds.

If I were running the UFC, I'd have signed Hendo - he and Nate would be fighting at 109 and the winner would get the shot at the winner of Silva/Belfort. Then the winner of AJ-Kos would fight Fitch for the following title shot.

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Gegard Mousasi if they ever sign him with the UFC. I could also see Shogun getting the win.
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Shit, I forgot Vitor. My bad. He will lose, but its still my bad.

And for those of you dont think Tito would stand in a chance in a 3 round fight are blind. Anderson has shitty TDD, and Tito is bigger and stronger and cant grind on him with TD's and elbows. Tito Ortiz is the most UNDERrated fighter in the UFC, seriously. People shit on him for losing to Randy, Chuck, And Machida


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The possible Tito fight is very interesting, I understand what Jdun is trying to say and I agree, seriously not even Chuck in his prime could put Tito out and in a 3 rounder Tito could definitely get a decision but the old Ortiz needs to show up the more explosive one, I wanna see that fight now depending on how he looks tonight.

The fight with Shogun would be epic, if I could think of a guy who could strike with Anderson the only guy I would give a chance to is Shogun not to mention the ground game that Shogun has, he usually has a relentless pace too and an iron chin.
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