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post #11 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-21-2009, 07:23 PM
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ok . should there be a grace factor in making weight in lbs.... ??
must be harder for some than others . there should be a lb limit .
in other words if someone comes in at 170 and another comes in at 175..
there is, the commission grants 1 lb leniency

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I don't understand why a)they aren't given more than a 2 lb margin for error, and b) why so much of the issue of weight cutting is so frequently described as "part of the sport."
a) most scales won't be that far off. 1 lb is reasonable, 2 lbs is getting a little out there, these are commission-sanctioned scales and if you increased the margin of error, you'd have all fighters claiming they are on weight, the scale was wrong by X pounds.

b) that's just the way it has become. It's not that it was intended to be, but when you have to weigh in 24 hours before and it doesn't matter how much you weight at fight time, that's just how it ends up. Happens in wrestling and boxing too.

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The weight cutting isnt an issue with Rumble at the moment, he made 170 with zero problems and didnt look that much larger then Kos and also didnt look particularly drained. There is no reason for him to have to move up to middleweight right now.
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Maybe someone can explain this to me what is the point of making weight the day before the fight, just to have the fighter gain weight before the fight? It seems completely pointless. It should be done , as someone mentioned, the morning or afternoon before the fight.
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Maybe someone can explain this to me what is the point of making weight the day before the fight, just to have the fighter gain weight before the fight? It seems completely pointless. It should be done , as someone mentioned, the morning or afternoon before the fight.
too much chaos for the commissions AND the promoter to do it the same day. That's the same reason they don't do it boxing either. Just doesn't work, fighters sometimes miss weight by a few pounds and have an hour to make weight, sometimes they don't make weight at all and the promoter and commission need time to negotiate a catchweight, penalty, or new opponent, not to mention that weighins are an event in and of themselves in both boxing and MMA now, they'd essentially be hosting another large media event THE SAME DAY in addition to the show itself and the post-fight press conference.

Too much work. Believe me, your idea is not at all new and if it were feasible they'd be doing it.

Hell, they don't even do same-day in competitive wrestling (to my knowledge, anyway) and they have only a small fraction of these pressures to deal with.

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too much chaos for the commissions AND the promoter to do it the same day. That's the same reason they don't do it boxing either. Just doesn't work, fighters sometimes miss weight by a pound and have an hour to make weight, sometimes they don't make weight at all and the promoter and commission need time to negotiate a catchweight, penalty, or new opponent, not to mention that weighins are an event in and of themselves in both boxing and MMA now, they'd essentially be hosting another large media event THE SAME DAY in addition to the show itself and the post-fight press conference.

Too much work. Believe me, your idea is not at all new and if it were feasible they'd be doing it.

Hell, they don't even do same-day in competitive wrestling and they have only a small fraction of these pressures to deal with.
Never thought of it like that. Completely makes sense now. Thank you good sir.
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